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Crime in SA vs New Zealand
« on: April 02, 2008, 09:54:50 AM »
Some people questioned if SA is really that bad. Read two articles in the news today and decide.

Robbers make son watch rape
02/04/2008 08:02  - (SA)   
Virginia Keppler, Beeld


Pretoria - A robber raped a woman in front of her six-year-old son shortly after midnight in her home in Pebble Rock Estate in Leeufontein, northeast of Pretoria.

Two other robbers held her bound husband and their five-year-old daughter in the bathroom of the main bedroom.

The family, who were making plans to emigrate to Australia, were attacked in their bedroom.

Police spokesperson Captain Jan Sepato said the 35-year-old woman and her 37-year-old husband woke with a fright when they heard something in their bedroom.

When they jumped up, three armed robbers switched on the light.

The couple was overcome by the robbers and forced to lie down on the bed.

Sepato said: "They asked for money and guns and the man said he had money in one of the cupboards."

Made boy watch rape

The robbers went to the cupboard with the man to get the money.

"The man gave them R5 000 and they took him to the bathroom where one robber kept watch over him."

According to Sepato, the robbers woke the couple's children in their rooms and took them to the main bedroom.

"They took the girl to her father in the bathroom and made the boy lie down next to his mother.

"Then one of the robbers raped the mother in front of the boy."

"The robbers then stole cellphones, two plasma-screen televisions and other valuable items, locked the family in the main bedroom and fled.

"The father wriggled free and called for help."

Second attack on estate

Captain Barend Brits of Kameeldrift police station said the couple were still badly shocked on Tuesday morning.

"We offered them counselling, but they said they would find someone professional themselves."

Another couple was attacked by five robbers in their home on the estate in December last year.

They had managed to keep their bedroom door closed for long enough until their neighbour came to their rescue with his shotgun.

 
New Zealand Herald Newspaper
Murder numbers lowest for 10 years
 
5:00AM Wednesday April 02, 2008
By Beck Vass
Police statistics issued yesterday show there were 45 murders last year - a fact which Police Minister Annette King says goes against perceptions that New Zealand has become a more dangerous place to live.

"Last year there were 45 murders - fewer than for a decade," Ms King said.

"That's still too many, as far as I am concerned, but murders are not out of control, as some would suggest. In terms of violent crime, the real tragedy for our society continues to be domestic violence."

Overall crime has risen by 2246 offences, but Ms King congratulated police for resolving 9539 more crimes than they did in 2006.

Although there were fewer murders, violent offences - which include robbery and serious assaults - increased by the greatest proportion of all crime categories, up by 6252 offences (12.3 per cent).

Grievous assaults rose by 715 offences, minor assaults by 1321 and serious assaults by 2894.

Group assemblies increased by 119 offences and intimidation and threats by 1410.

Nationally, there were 426,380 recorded offences - almost one crime for every 10 New Zealanders.

This amounts to an increase of 0.5 per cent, but Assistant Commissioner Grant Nicholls said that when New Zealand's rising population was taken into account, crime had dropped by 0.5 per cent.

The crimes affecting most citizens continue to be dishonesty offences such as burglary and car thefts.

Dishonesty offending accounted for 52.7 per cent of all crime with 224,702 reports - down 12,132 on 2006.

Mr Nicholls said family violence was recorded in several different ways but overall, it had increased by 24.3 per cent and was largely behind the overall increase in violence. Drugs and antisocial behaviour increased by 4059 offences, which police were largely blaming on liquor ban breaches. Reports of property damage increased by 4163 offences.

Mr Nicholls said this category had been increasing rapidly since 2004, mainly because of graffiti.

The increase in violence has prompted Police Association president Greg O'Connor to call for more officers to be deployed on the beat before there were more victims.

"There is a lot of good work being done by police round the country, and excellent results being achieved in most areas," he said.

"But violence is clearly our biggest problem so primary response policing should be our biggest priority.


"Otherwise, the official 2008 statistics will simply record New Zealand's further slide into violence and disorder."

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Re: Crime in SA vs New Zealand
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2008, 10:05:21 AM »
That story in the Beeld really makes me feel sick to the pit of my stomach!!!!  :'(



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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2008, 12:05:46 PM »
 Ditto Eileen  :'( :'(

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2008, 02:08:02 PM »
and the sad thing is that those @#$%*& will never be found or brought to justice, and that poor family has to deal with it all.  i hope they r still on track for immigrating to oz.  the sooner the better

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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2008, 07:35:58 PM »
Can't even begin to think how this family is going to get through this.  How do you deal with this much trauma to each member?  Sick  :censored: :censored: :censored:.
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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2008, 03:01:06 AM »
So sad to read that story in the Beeld

Some people questioned if SA is really that bad. Read two articles in the news today and decide.

Robbers make son watch rape
02/04/2008 08:02  - (SA)   
Virginia Keppler, Beeld


Pretoria - A robber raped a woman in front of her six-year-old son shortly after midnight in her home in Pebble Rock Estate in Leeufontein, northeast of Pretoria.

Two other robbers held her bound husband and their five-year-old daughter in the bathroom of the main bedroom.

The family, who were making plans to emigrate to Australia, were attacked in their bedroom.

Police spokesperson Captain Jan Sepato said the 35-year-old woman and her 37-year-old husband woke with a fright when they heard something in their bedroom.

When they jumped up, three armed robbers switched on the light.

The couple was overcome by the robbers and forced to lie down on the bed.

Sepato said: "They asked for money and guns and the man said he had money in one of the cupboards."

Made boy watch rape

The robbers went to the cupboard with the man to get the money.

"The man gave them R5 000 and they took him to the bathroom where one robber kept watch over him."

According to Sepato, the robbers woke the couple's children in their rooms and took them to the main bedroom.

"They took the girl to her father in the bathroom and made the boy lie down next to his mother.

"Then one of the robbers raped the mother in front of the boy."

"The robbers then stole cellphones, two plasma-screen televisions and other valuable items, locked the family in the main bedroom and fled.

"The father wriggled free and called for help."

Second attack on estate

Captain Barend Brits of Kameeldrift police station said the couple were still badly shocked on Tuesday morning.

"We offered them counselling, but they said they would find someone professional themselves."

Another couple was attacked by five robbers in their home on the estate in December last year.

They had managed to keep their bedroom door closed for long enough until their neighbour came to their rescue with his shotgun.

 
New Zealand Herald Newspaper
Murder numbers lowest for 10 years
 
5:00AM Wednesday April 02, 2008
By Beck Vass
Police statistics issued yesterday show there were 45 murders last year - a fact which Police Minister Annette King says goes against perceptions that New Zealand has become a more dangerous place to live.

"Last year there were 45 murders - fewer than for a decade," Ms King said.

"That's still too many, as far as I am concerned, but murders are not out of control, as some would suggest. In terms of violent crime, the real tragedy for our society continues to be domestic violence."

Overall crime has risen by 2246 offences, but Ms King congratulated police for resolving 9539 more crimes than they did in 2006.

Although there were fewer murders, violent offences - which include robbery and serious assaults - increased by the greatest proportion of all crime categories, up by 6252 offences (12.3 per cent).

Grievous assaults rose by 715 offences, minor assaults by 1321 and serious assaults by 2894.

Group assemblies increased by 119 offences and intimidation and threats by 1410.

Nationally, there were 426,380 recorded offences - almost one crime for every 10 New Zealanders.

This amounts to an increase of 0.5 per cent, but Assistant Commissioner Grant Nicholls said that when New Zealand's rising population was taken into account, crime had dropped by 0.5 per cent.

The crimes affecting most citizens continue to be dishonesty offences such as burglary and car thefts.

Dishonesty offending accounted for 52.7 per cent of all crime with 224,702 reports - down 12,132 on 2006.

Mr Nicholls said family violence was recorded in several different ways but overall, it had increased by 24.3 per cent and was largely behind the overall increase in violence. Drugs and antisocial behaviour increased by 4059 offences, which police were largely blaming on liquor ban breaches. Reports of property damage increased by 4163 offences.

Mr Nicholls said this category had been increasing rapidly since 2004, mainly because of graffiti.

The increase in violence has prompted Police Association president Greg O'Connor to call for more officers to be deployed on the beat before there were more victims.

"There is a lot of good work being done by police round the country, and excellent results being achieved in most areas," he said.

"But violence is clearly our biggest problem so primary response policing should be our biggest priority.


"Otherwise, the official 2008 statistics will simply record New Zealand's further slide into violence and disorder."


New Zealand recorded its lowest murder rate for a decade at 45, with 41 resolved before the end of the year.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10501360

45 murders a year in NZ!!!!!!! 41 RESOLVED!!!! in the same year!!! with statistics like this NZ is one hell of a safe country, there is no doubting the fact you are very safe here. The crime stats are "high", but look at what is being reported as part of the stats, dishonesty (accounted for 52.7 per cent of all crime in NZ) , drinking and driving, graffiti (tacking). More murders in SA in one day than all murders in New Zealand in an entire year!!!

Crime is on the increase in NZ as it is in all countries around the world, that's why its concerning. At least the problem here is being tackled and the government is doing something about it.

Imagine news24.com publishing every rape and murder in SA every day. 150 rapes, and over 50 murders? Then compare.


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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2008, 07:23:06 AM »
It really just makes me sick.  They dont just want to take your money and go.  They want you to suffer!!

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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2008, 07:33:22 AM »
of course! Its pay back time you evil whites!

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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2008, 10:05:56 AM »
A little off the above topic......

My children play outside in out front yard some afternoons. Our front yard is unfenced.

The moment it gets to around 6 pm I panick and call the kids inside the house as it becomes dangerous to play outside.

I live in Scottburgh and if any of you have ever been there, you will know that it looks like a lovely safe little town. Hmm, well....in close vicinity to our house a friend of ours (mother and two daughters) were attacked outside while they were having a braai. Thank goodness the one daughters boyfriend pitched up to fetch her as they were going out and the guys fled. The one attacker was dragging her around by her hair saying he was going to #@#$ her.

Apart from the father getting shot in the house right behind us in front of his wife and twin four year old sons....we have at least 5 breakin's / week in my suburb of Freeland Park alone.

One neighbour was braai'ng outside, family inside the house. He went inside quickly and when he came out some guys were running off with his whole braai, meat on top an' all.

Well anyway, my original point is that Im so sick and tired of bringing my children up in fear. When we go to the mall I make both of my kids hold my hand, I make my 8 year old son go into the Ladies toilets with me no matter where I am. Every robot I stop at there are, according to me, potential hijackers there (had a near-hijacking a couple of months back) so the kinds know when they get into the car, hide any bags, lock all doors, windows not open wide.

I wish I could take my kiddies to a park to play but that is just not on in this country anymore.....not unless you value your life!



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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2008, 10:35:15 AM »
and you let your kids play in the garden???????????? You are brave!

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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2008, 10:43:35 AM »
He he he, thank goodness we have BIG German Shepherds that never leave their side

Feel sorry for the poor bugger that tries to walk down our road (thankfully stay in a cul-de-sac)



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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2008, 10:49:42 AM »
One neighbour was braai'ng outside, family inside the house. He went inside quickly and when he came out some guys were running off with his whole braai, meat on top an' all.

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They took padkos  :thumbdown:

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:2funny: :'(

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