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Offline mandyh

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Re: WAKE UP & SMELL THE COFFEE!!!
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2008, 10:25:50 pm »
Gonz you're not daft.  Since we arrived in January 2008 we have felt like we've come home even though we've never been here before.  None of us are missing SA at all.  We still chat to a couple of friend in SA every now and then but we find that they're diminishing fast.  This has been the best move that any of us could possibly have made.
We love NZ  :smitten:

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« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2008, 10:33:58 pm »
Yip us too O0

Two and a half years later and we are still as happy as the day we arrived. We've had bad days when we were waiting for PR to come through, but that was just us being impatient :whistle:
We have always felt "at home" here O0


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« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2008, 12:47:17 pm »
http://images.images11.com/za_members/5240/ftp/DEMARTINI_-_SHOULD_I_STAY_2_JAN_08_(4).doc
here  is the article for those who cant open it
Should I stay or Should I go?

Dr John F Demartini - South Africa
www.drdemartini.co.za


Spokesperson:  Dr John Demartini


The general feeling among South Africans is doom and gloom based on the following facts and perceptions.  South Africa is the crime, murder and Aids capital of the world,   It used to have the best roads and now they are full of potholes. There seems to be only fraudsters at the top of the police force. The country’s leadership under Mbeki is rudderless.  The head of the ruling party is up on corruption charges and narrowly escaped a rape charge. Now a basic infrastructural commodity such as electricity is being rationed.  This will directly influence future foreign investment, which in turn will increase unemployment, poverty and crime.  Mines are being forced to periodically shut down losing billions of rands, which will result in an adverse affect on the economy. This also brings us to the unthinkable - we could lose the 2010 World Cup.   And the even more unthinkable, are we slowly going the same way of Zimbabwe?

A poll taken by Carte Blanche this week confirmed that the majority of affluent South Africans have absolutely no faith in Eskom sorting out the power problems.  There seems to be no light at the end of the tunnel, literally.  The question on everybody’s lips is – should I stay or should I go?

With South Africa’s morale at an all time low, we turned to an objective source for comment, human behavioral specialist Dr John Demartini.  His teachings take him all over the world each year enabling him to experience a vast array of living standards. Originally from the US, his work brings him to South Africa for extended periods about four times a year.

“The question is not should I stay or should I go?  It is wiser to ask – what awaits me if I leave? Unquestionably there are challenges in South Africa, but you are living in a fantasy if you think there won’t be a new set of challenges and drawbacks when you move to another country. People who run away from challenge get more challenges to face and manage. People who seek ease - get continued difficulty.  It’s the way it is – the integration of complimentary opposites.

The challenges in this country, like the power shortage, will also birth more opportunities. New enterprises will blossom as a result. Out of crisis always emerges the greatest leaders. You may not realize it, but your challenges are unifying people in SA and making them think more creatively. SA is a seed of opportunity for entrepreneurs who could contribute to transformation.  Anyway, why run from your heritage? A situation like Eskom is a temporary glitch and it is unwise to let it interfere with your long-term visions and goals. Remember, the greatest tension in the sling shot - shoots the highest rock. 

There is never a crisis without a blessing.  So let’s look at the blessings in the power situation.  This may be a lesson to Government to think beyond ten years and accommodate a 50-year vision so subsequent generations benefit from these lessons.  On a day to day level, no power to your television is probably making families talk to each other more. Gold mines might have temporarily shut down, but the gold price shot up.

If you have made up your mind to go, that’s fine, but if you are staying, bitching without taking actions toward solutions is not going to help.  Don’t let naysayers interfere with your dreams and opportunities.
However, staying means you cannot afford the luxury of sitting back. You are wiser to get into proactive mode.  Yes, it may seem insurmountable, but if every individual helps at a grassroots level by figuring out how to empower the people around them, it will make a massive collective difference. Mandela is the perfect example of just one person who stood up and changed things by his huge vision for this country. You know the famous words of President Kennedy: “It is not what your country can do for you – it’s what you can do for your country.”

Long-term visionaries know to stay the course. They don’t focus on how things aren’t being done; they wisely look at what is being done and what can be done on an individual basis. They are always solution orientated and not problem focused.

You are not at the mercy of your government; it’s the other way round. They are there because the majority of people voted for them.  If you don’t like their vision, rally around and change it. In the meantime, don’t wait on them to sort out the problems, make it a community project.

Contrary to the current thoughts of disillusionment and uncertainty, which are largely driven by emotion, remember foreigners believe in South Africa. Look at Oprah who has built a school here and Branson who has invested every aspect of his brand here including buying a game reserve.  Temporary setbacks won’t stop these people.

Look at the history of social dynamics.  Nations have risen and fallen for centuries.  They have taken one step back and two steps forward.  South Africa has made massive strides in the last few years.  When I first got here South Africa was nothing like I envisioned. I was very impressed.  And in the three years I have been regularly coming here, I have seen great progress in the landscaping, buildings and living conditions. Would I invest in this country?  I already have. I have ploughed in copious amounts of time and energy and this is the only place I have established an office outside of the States.  My worldwide branding is currently being created here and my working visits are getting more frequent and prolonged.  I am even looking at possibly investing in a lodge in a game reserve.  I have also experienced three robberies from my hotel room, but that isn’t going to curb my long-term goals in South Africa.

Crime is an issue that needs to be tackled in a much larger forum than this. However, I will go as far as saying; when there is a high polarity between the have and the have nots, there will always be tension between the two camps and crime is the by-product.  Closing the gap is the wisest strategy and this cannot be done through entitlement.  Entitled people generally don’t feel purposeful and are therefore not creating their own lives. Education and mentoring, which translates into self-worth and true empowerment, is the only solution.

I also believe that newspapers could play a massive role and be the hero in changing perceptions as they reach the masses.  Their actions could even transform the government.

If you decide to stay and fight for your birthplace then you need to go from a victim to a victor mentality. Make the South African mantra – I will stay and help build a great nation. And remember if you become grateful for what you have, you will get more to be grateful for. 


For more information on Dr John F Demartini and upcoming events in South Africa contact The Demartini Institute South Africa: info@drdemartini.co.za or 083 370 2201 (Clarissa Judd).  Website: www.drdemartini.co.za

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Re: WAKE UP & SMELL THE COFFEE!!!
« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2008, 01:11:22 pm »
Whatever.

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Re: WAKE UP & SMELL THE COFFEE!!!
« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2008, 01:21:13 pm »
Sorry got bored 1/4 in to reading.



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Re: WAKE UP & SMELL THE COFFEE!!!
« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2008, 03:15:32 pm »
I dont want to be a victim......(yawn) :sleep:



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« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2008, 04:19:22 pm »
Ditto Tandl & DV !!!!!

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« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2008, 04:30:33 pm »
Demartini....Dreamer!

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« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2008, 08:15:51 pm »
Sounds like a cult leader.
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Re: WAKE UP & SMELL THE COFFEE!!!
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2008, 08:39:25 pm »
What is this guy on :idiot2:


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« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2008, 09:40:59 pm »
He is only an honoury doctorwhich he received afermaking millions selling self help to people. he does noy live in SA but stays here in luxury hotels and makes money...He is really into selfhelp ;)



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« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2008, 05:00:48 am »
What an  :idiot2:. Makes me mad when people come here and make all these assumptions when they have not lived as the average person does or faced the same challenges just to keep body and soul together. Do they really think we would just sit back and do nothing if there was a plaster to fix it?
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Re: WAKE UP & SMELL THE COFFEE!!!
« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2008, 01:04:30 am »
Thanks everyone! I think I'll book the tickets today! Zaharra, the whole extended family is another thing all together. Granny is already saying things to our 2 year old like "They are going to take you away from granny to that horrible place"!! That's really harsh. I think I'm going to battle to get Granny's blessing, It's dissapointing as I thought she would be happy for us???
Geez tell granny to grow up. Ask her would she rather console the kids when they get raped or someone get killed.

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Re: WAKE UP & SMELL THE COFFEE!!!
« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2008, 03:37:53 am »
Please people, when replying here, consider others... I know this issue gets us all heated up, but take into consideration that our members are not only white here, and that we also have children here....

Sorry, but I've had to delete two posts here that were causing offense.  :'(
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