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Re: What Salary will I earn?
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2007, 03:30:09 pm »
Well said MJ.  Marlize you are just saying it as it is.  How do the Americans say, keeping it real. :) 

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Re: What Salary will I earn?
« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2007, 04:27:02 pm »
As others have said, it's always good to know the tough realities.  I know my one sister andher family had to rent for many years, before they could finaly afford to buy a home in North Shore, Auckland.  For her being a gourmet cook, it was hard to "downscale" to these tiny kitchens which she said, "you can't swing a mouse in it, never mind a cat!".  They came over with 3 kids, one a young teen, the other two just preteen.  Yes it was hard.  the boys had to share a room in the beginning.  But now after nearly 8 years, they have a lovely home, cars for each of them, the eldest son is still living at home, but working two jobs (one is his own business), and they are all happy.  two of them are studying at "Uni".   It's been a long road to get where they are at, but they said they wouldn't trade it for a life back in SA again. 

My other sister got there before we even came to the USA.  They too, rented for a while.  Then her MIL and Gran-in-law both passed away within a few years of each other, and they inherited a small sum.  Just enough to allow them to buy their own home (not pay it off yet though).  They too have 3 kids, one was born in NZ.  She homeschools them.  Her hubby is a physiotherapist at the schools I think, but doesn't earn mega bucks.  My sister makes a little extra from remedial teaching in the afternoons.  Their house is tiny by our standards.  The two girls share a room, so that they can use the one bedroom as  a classroom.  The livingroom is now the master bedr, and the porch at the back was enclosed to become a lounge.  It's cosy.  But they are extremely happy.  Her hubby can walk/cycle to work.  They have one car.  The children to ballet, gymnastics, scouts.  They don't have a lot to spare, but they are comfortable. 

I have realised just how materialistic we can be.  And I sure have been spoiled here in the USA with a sizeable home, huge bedrooms with walk-in closets and a lovely huge kitchen.  I'm gonna miss it.  But I know that moving to NZ where my family is closer, is going to mean the world to my kids.  The laid back lifestyle is going to be good for my hubby, because America is a rat race.  And I'm looking forward to milder weather where we can be outdoors more often.  Of all the ccountries we could choose from, I can hardly imagine a better country than NZ at this point.
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Re: What Salary will I earn?
« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2007, 04:27:02 pm »

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Re: What Salary will I earn?
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2007, 06:03:20 pm »
Hi, Rhodan to answer you i am refering to income per family. As saffers I think most will struggle to live on the average kiwi salary. Age is a factor and the younger you are and the sooner you can earn nz dollars and the less rand capital you lose the easier it will be i think.It is a big step and it is better to go over and find things better than expected. Some people could earn more for instance a friend of mine who has been there ten years and was a young headmaster in sa went over as a senior teacher - 8 years later he is a headmaster again- earned much the same in his new juniour position. On the otherhand a friend who too has been there ten years and is a lawher earns what he earned 10 years ago in sa. Also be prepared the houses are very different check the out on the sites. At the end of the day every fact and opinion helps us ( of confuses us !!)

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Re: What Salary will I earn?
« Reply #33 on: May 27, 2007, 05:28:40 am »
Hi All
Yes yes and yes!!! I must agree with all the postings here. Genrally speaking we as Saffers are VERY spoilt even though we complain that we battling to get through on our meagre salaries. IMHO even with the cuts in luxury and some basics we will be better off on a securit angle. Also you have the great outdoors for free.

Having spent 2months in NZ on a LSD and living with family I was able to see how real Kiwis live. For us as a family we have started doing small things to help us cope with the changes we will have to face. Driving slower; eating less meat and more fruit and veg, budgeting for everything weekly rather than monthly and my own struggle grocery shopping weekly instead of a bulk buy once a month. Strangle enouigh we have found that by doing this we actually come out with more money than month at the the end of the month rather than the other way round. This is great as it gives us more to put into savings to take across.

As for housing heck it took us 18 years into our marriage before we could afford to buy a house here so that is no biggie for us. As long as we can afford a home with enough space to put in beds for all we are happy. Sharing rooms is not a problem as my kids did that for years here.

This does not mean that we will satisfied with less than nothing for ever. Only that we know we will be able to cope when the going gets tough.
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Re: What Salary will I earn?
« Reply #34 on: May 27, 2007, 05:34:30 am »
Thanks for your input, Dance!

So NOW I know why my sister is suddenly punting living on raw fruit and veggies only!  ;D
(she's studying nutrition and is preaching at me from across the waters... makes me want to go live closer to the other sister :2funny: )
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Re: What Salary will I earn?
« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2007, 10:03:21 am »
and that i salso why at medical weight is a factor ... you would not be able to keep up your luxury dieet of spare ribs tjoks and steaks every day. If you do that you will not have anything left to live of.

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Re: What Salary will I earn?
« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2007, 07:33:04 pm »
So maybe I'll finally be able to lose the weight I gained in the States!  :clap:
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Re: What Salary will I earn?
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Re: What Salary will I earn?
« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2007, 08:13:02 am »
Maybe i will finally be able to get my family to eat healthier meals. Fresh fruit and veggies get the thumbs up from me, but you would swear I was trying to get my guys to down poison and not nutritious food.
"never let the fear of striking out,keep you from playing the game"

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Re: What Salary will I earn?
« Reply #38 on: May 28, 2007, 04:10:34 pm »
I agree, Naz!!  When I try to feed them the healthy stuff, they think I don't love them!  ::)
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Re: What Salary will I earn?
« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2007, 07:05:09 am »
Well Colleen, I dont think we have anyone to blame but ourselves. I know that I should have done things differently, and hopefully its not too late to change it.
"never let the fear of striking out,keep you from playing the game"

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Re: What Salary will I earn?
« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2007, 07:40:15 am »
I got this by e-mail the other day and I think it says it all


Mean Moms
Someday when my children are old enough to
understand the logic that motivates a parent, I will
tell them, as my Mean Mom told me: I loved you
enough . . . to ask where you were going, with whom,
and what time you would be home.

I loved you enough to be silent and let you
discover that your new best friend was a creep.

I loved you enough to stand over you for two hours
while you cleaned your room, a job that should have taken 15 minutes.

I loved you enough to let you see anger,
disappointment, and tears in my eyes. Children must
learn that their parents aren't perfect.

I loved you enough to let you assume the
responsibility for your actions even when the
penalties were so harsh they almost broke my heart.

But most of all, I loved you enough . . .. to say
NO when I knew you would hate me for it.

Those were the most difficult battles of all. I'm
glad I won them, because in the end you won, too.
And someday when your children are old enough to
understand the logic that motivates parents, you will tell them.

Was your Mom mean? I know mine was. We had the
meanest mother in the whole world! While other kids
ate candy for breakfast, we had to have cereal, eggs, and toast.
When others had a Pepsi and a Twinkie for lunch, we had to eat sandwiches.
And you can guess our mother fixed us a dinner that was
different from what other kids had, too.

Mother insisted on knowing where we were at all
times. You'd think we were convicts in a prison. She
had to know who our friends were, and what we were
doing with them. She insisted that if we said we
would be gone for an hour, we would be gone for an hour or less.

We were ashamed to admit it, but she had the nerve
to break the Child Labour Laws by making us work We
had to wash the dishes, make the beds, learn to
cook, vacuum the floor, do laundry, empty the trash
and all sorts of cruel jobs. I think she would lie
awake at night thinking of more things for us to do.

She always insisted on us telling the truth, the
whole truth, and nothing but the truth. By the time
we were teenagers, she could read our minds and had
eyes in the back of her head. Then, life was really tough!

Mother wouldn't let our friends just honk the horn
when they drove up. They had to come up to the door
so she could meet them. While everyone else could
date when they were 12 or 13, we had to wait until we were 16.

Because of our mother we missed out on lots of
things other kids experienced. None of us have ever
been caught shoplifting, vandalizing other's
property or ever arrested for any crime. It was all her fault.

Now that we have left home, we are all educated,
honest adults. We are doing our best to be mean
parents just like Mom was.

I think that is what's wrong with the world today.
It just doesn't have enough mean moms!
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Re: What Salary will I earn?
« Reply #41 on: May 29, 2007, 07:47:10 am »
Beautiful and so true.

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Re: What Salary will I earn?
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Re: What Salary will I earn?
« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2007, 08:12:03 am »
 :'( why is being a mother so difficult and so rewarding at the same time :smitten:


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Re: What Salary will I earn?
« Reply #43 on: May 29, 2007, 10:15:13 am »
Its probably because God intended it that way Happy. But I know exactly what you mean. It's sometimes hard being a mean mom
"never let the fear of striking out,keep you from playing the game"

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Re: What Salary will I earn?
« Reply #44 on: May 29, 2007, 04:56:54 pm »
And Dads are the heroes because the kids know that if they ask Dad for something, he usually gives in.  >:(
lekker sweet as, y'all
~ Colleen