Advice and Support for South Africans Immigrating to New Zealand

South Africans Going To New Zealand

Author Topic: South Africans not welcome overseas  (Read 3175 times)

Offline ryanrich

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 460
South Africans not welcome overseas
« on: March 20, 2009, 07:22:31 am »
Source

Quote
South Africans no longer welcome in struggling Australia and New Zealand job markets
SOUTH Africans seeking greener pastures in New Zealand and Australia are sheepishly having to return home.

The global economic meltdown has led New Zealand to enforce regulations giving priority to Kiwis ahead of immigrants in the job market, and Australia has slashed the number of skilled migrants it will accept into the country.

A recruitment agent in New Zealand told The Times that many South Africans have found there was “only heartbreak waiting” when they stepped off the plane.
And a South African family has being kicked out of New Zealand after the new “‘jobs for Kiwis” ruling.

According to the North Shore Times in Auckland, Daniel Labuschagne applied for a work permit renewal in July after two years of working in the security industry there.
Today the family were deported and forced to return to South Africa.
“We are going to be going back with nothing,” Labuschagne said.

Immigration authorities in New Zealand said: “In the current economic climate, with unemployment increasing, there is a renewed focus on ensuring that New Zealand citizens and residents are given first priority when vacancies are advertised.”

Other South Africans — who immigrated to New Zealand and Australia in the hopes of better work and pay — are facing a similar predicament to the Labuschagnes.

Australia’s immigration minister, Chris Evans, said the country will cut its skilled migrant intake by nearly 20,000, to 115,000, this financial year in response to rising unemployment.

William Blomfield, of the Australian High Commission in South Africa, told The Times yesterday that the global financial crisis has badly affected employment opportunities for migrants in that country.
Australia and New Zealand have long been favoured destinations for South Africans fleeing the country’s high crime rate — many also blame a lack of employment opportunities, saying they are disenfranchised by the government’s affirmative action and black economic empowerment policies.

Blomfield said: “Australia is still open to skilled migrants but we are now operating a more tightly targeted programme.”
Erin Woods, national operations manager for a recruitment agency in New Zealand, told The Times that South Africans are being “duped” into thinking that there are greener pastures in the Land of the Long White Cloud.

She said: “We are facing massive redundancies and unemployment in New Zealand. Unless you arrive in this country with a work permit then the chances of you getting a job are nil.
She added: “People planning to immigrate need to be wary of so- called specialists — so many of the South African people I have spoken to have arrived here thinking the streets were paved with gold and they are not.

“Unless you are on a very recent job shortage list — and know for sure that there is not likely to be someone already in New Zealand who can do the job — then there is only heartbreak waiting when you step off the plane.”
Martine Schaffer, managing director of SA Homecoming Revolution, said a recent job expo, hosted annually by a company called Opportunities Australia, had a very poor turnout this past weekend.
“Last year Australian companies had vacancies for engineering, IT and mining. This year, only a third of companies were represented and most of the stands were for moving companies and people who help you make visa applications.”

Schaffer also said an analysis of their website showed that more than 1000 South Africans living in New Zealand and Australia were looking at the site for information relating to moving back to South Africa.
A South African couple, Pieter and Yolandi van Zyl, were among the lucky ones who got into New Zealand last year.

Woods said: “We sponsored Pieter and Yolandi at the end of last year and were very, very lucky to get them. If I tried today, their work permit would be turned down flat.”
The couple remained unemployed for six months before they found work — as recruitment agents.

Offline Feather

  • Resident
  • *
  • Posts: 2112
  • Heather - Kaiapoi, Christchurch
Re: South Africans not welcome overseas
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2009, 08:00:20 am »
Very interesting! Very concerning too!!

SA Going to NZ Advice Forum

Re: South Africans not welcome overseas
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2009, 08:00:20 am »

Offline Mumtaz (CapetonianInWellington)

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 458
Re: South Africans not welcome overseas
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2009, 08:02:35 am »
Source???



Offline Feather

  • Resident
  • *
  • Posts: 2112
  • Heather - Kaiapoi, Christchurch
Re: South Africans not welcome overseas
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2009, 08:03:31 am »
Yes please give us the source

Offline magusta

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 374
Re: South Africans not welcome overseas
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2009, 08:14:45 am »
click on "source" at the top of the post

Offline ryanrich

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 460
Re: South Africans not welcome overseas
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2009, 08:18:57 am »
As juan says, source is posted at the top of the article guys.

Concerning indeed. I spoke to some contacts there and they say the jobs on shortage lists are still doing alright, but it's definitely getting pretty tough out there, and much more competitive.

Offline tmprince

  • Certified Addict
  • ******
  • Posts: 1394
  • Auckland New Zealand
Re: South Africans not welcome overseas
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2009, 08:22:10 am »
LALALALA:ALALA I am not reading this I am not lisinig picture me with eyes tight shut and fingers in my ears !
Lovies
Marcia
EOI submitted   13-01-09
EOI selected     28-01-09
ITA recieved     09-02-09
ITA submitted   24-06-09
ITA lodged       26-06-09
CO assigned     28-09-09
WTR approved  14-05-2010
Arrived 01-07-2010
PR March 2011
5 YEARS TODAY 01-07-2015

SA Going to NZ Advice Forum

Re: South Africans not welcome overseas
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2009, 08:22:10 am »

Offline ronaldd

  • Certified Addict
  • ******
  • Posts: 1336
Re: South Africans not welcome overseas
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2009, 08:34:17 am »
sad to say,  article is true.. i am not even going to say "but".

lets not give people false impressions here.. its not as easy now as it was 2 years ago.
2008-04-06 Landed
2008-06-06 WP.
2008-06-17 EOI
2008-07-16  Selected
2008-12-04 Residence application submitted
2009-03-30 Residence + RRV Granted
2009-04-07 Received passports
2014-07-28 Citizenship

Offline ryanrich

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 460
Re: South Africans not welcome overseas
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2009, 09:01:43 am »
sad to say,  article is true.. i am not even going to say "but".

lets not give people false impressions here.. its not as easy now as it was 2 years ago.

Yup. This is why I think it's much better for families in SA to rather apply for PR if they qualify, and not just gooi it cowboy style... You can lose everything in an instant and be forced to return to SA empty handed.

Offline ronaldd

  • Certified Addict
  • ******
  • Posts: 1336
Re: South Africans not welcome overseas
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2009, 09:55:28 am »
and not to discourage people who want to come over..

its not going to be plain sailing.  You better have qualifications and experience before arriving... its going to be a deal breaker if you dont.
2008-04-06 Landed
2008-06-06 WP.
2008-06-17 EOI
2008-07-16  Selected
2008-12-04 Residence application submitted
2009-03-30 Residence + RRV Granted
2009-04-07 Received passports
2014-07-28 Citizenship

Offline ryanrich

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 460
Re: South Africans not welcome overseas
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2009, 10:04:16 am »
Indeed!

I'm still going ahead with my plans because I have the necessary experience and qualifications and my occupation is on the immediate shortage list, and I'm single and going over alone, and if I absolutely had to return to SA I would be able to have my current job back. If any of those facts were not true though, I would seriously consider my options...

Offline Saturn_Moon

  • Certified Addict
  • ******
  • Posts: 1514
  • Auckland, New Zealand
Re: South Africans not welcome overseas
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2009, 10:08:24 am »
I cannot agree with ryanrich and ronaldd more.

By the way things are looking, my DH and I will be one of those people who will be returning to SA with nothing. And we are one of those couples who are experiencing heartbreak.

Please don't be fooled. NZ is great but be warned, don't let your judgement get clouded, please DO NOT come over to NZ without already having a WP (and the intention to apply for PR asap) or with PR.

Cowboy is NO LONGER an option. You will only suffer lots of heart ache and stress which you could have avoiding - it might even destroy your relationship. My DH and I are fighting just about every day.

Please Marcia - as much as you want to ignore this article, please don't. This is reality which my DH and I are living with. Please don't come over with your family until you have that PR - I am begging you the stress is not worth it.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(



SA Going to NZ Advice Forum

Re: South Africans not welcome overseas
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2009, 10:08:24 am »

Offline Saturn_Moon

  • Certified Addict
  • ******
  • Posts: 1514
  • Auckland, New Zealand
Re: South Africans not welcome overseas
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2009, 10:15:09 am »
With all due respect ryanrich, please be careful...

My DH and I also decided to go ahead with our plans because we didn't have any children and because my DH could go back to his job.

We also felt that we would be just fine because my DH is on the skilled shortage list - a Business/Systems analyst.

There are no jobs available for him. We repeatedly get emails saying that there were many more suitable candidates. We have been here for over 2 months and he hasn't had 1 single interview with a company.

My DH also discovered that the position he left in SA are doing major retrenchments - all the colleagues in his team received letters. He would have been one of them.

No-one is safe anymore anywhere.

Please be very careful what decision you make. Whatever you do, don't come over without already having a WP or at least make 100% sure that your qualifications are recognised by NZQA.

It is not worth it.




Offline ryanrich

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 460
Re: South Africans not welcome overseas
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2009, 10:39:16 am »
Sorry to hear that SM, and all the best to you guys... :( You'll be in my prayers! Have you set any cut off dates yet or made firm plans?

I hear what you're saying. Last month I received two job offers though, but they wanted me to start there immediately and I couldn't. I think different occupations are being affected differently, even if they are on the same lists... My qualifications are recognised by NZ, so no issues there. It's also a little easier to get the work permit because I was in NZ on a 2 year work permit last year so I don't need to redo any health checks or police clearance, and have built up some contacts in the industry.

I'll still be going over very cautiously because it's definitely a different story to a year or so ago...

Offline Mumtaz (CapetonianInWellington)

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 458
Re: South Africans not welcome overseas
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2009, 10:55:36 am »
I cant agree more, The article is very very true. It is not as easy as it use to be, even 6 ago. Especially people that are coming over cowboy style with families. Rather apply for PR from SA.