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Offline JAMOMA

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Can we live on this?
« on: September 21, 2009, 10:34:51 am »
I need some help from people that know what it costs to live in Auckland.

Auckland was never an option for me so I never gave it a second thought and
only looked at what it would cost to live out in a country "dorpie"

But now it looks like Luke may get a job in Auckland and beggars can't be choosers.

The offer if around 50-55k pa, company vehicle & petrol, cel phone allowance.
Incentive bonuses and they do work some overtime.

We are a family of 5. Can we survive on this?



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Offline maanhaarleeu

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Re: Can we live on this?
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2009, 11:19:14 am »
Hi JAMOMA,

Let me tell you what I think and it may or may not answer your question.
It does not sound like a bad offer including alot of benefits so I would
take it and if you guys are battling, Luke can look for a better paying
job whilst getting paid.
Having an offer of employment simplifies alot of things ito immigration
like getting PR easy, shipping contents not even to say living of SA rand
whilst looking for a job for who knows how long.
Peoples lifestyle differs alot and what some people consider luxuries,
other can't do without so 50-55 could be enough for some, but not for
others.
People on this site keeps on saying that you take a knock of about 5 years
back in salary so keep that in mind as well.
Also did I mention how scarce it is to actually find work whilst still in
SA.
Go look at some shopping sites and go to trademe to search for
rental places and also other items that you guys may need.
Because you know your salary you can actually determine beforehand
if you guys can live with it or not.
Good luck with all the choices  ???
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Re: Can we live on this?
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2009, 11:19:14 am »

Offline Harm

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Re: Can we live on this?
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2009, 01:17:06 pm »
I second Vernon's opinion. I would give certain parts of my anatomy now to be able to get a job offer. This is your lucky break - take it.

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Re: Can we live on this?
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2009, 01:38:33 pm »
Thanks guys

He is in NZ. I am still here with the kids (trying to sell the house :banghead: and waiting for the kids to finish this year in school)

So he went for the interview today and this was the offer.

YES, we need the job to apply for residence, and we surely don't mind dropping our living standards for a while till I get a job - living on bread and water   :2funny:

But it's another thing to take the offer cause we SO need it and then having to tell your kids that there is no dinner tonight?

We will obviously have to rent in the cheaper areas (for a while anyway) and give woolies a miss etc.   >:D

I just have no idea what it costs to live in Auckland, so was scared that we would not be able to pay for the basics with that.

Will do some  :coffee:


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Re: Can we live on this?
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2009, 02:19:56 pm »
woolies in NZ is not like our woolies Jamoma it is more like our pickn'pay or checkers and there are places on the web that you can do your grocery shopping on line and although you are not there it is interesting to do a normal grocery shop for a week and see the total from that you can work out what it will cost to live.
You can estimate rentals and utilities from other posts on this site add the gracery bill and see. 50 -55k a year works out to about $1000.00 a week so log on at pack & save or famers and do some shopping you just dont finalise the shopping part  ,so don't press pay and enter  >:D
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Offline JAMOMA

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Re: Can we live on this?
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2009, 02:34:48 pm »
Thanks Marcia

Will give it a go.

Cheers
Jenny


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Offline maanhaarleeu

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Re: Can we live on this?
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2009, 02:35:26 pm »
Hi Jenny,

Another problem is that it is currently an employers market in NZ, they can pick an choose from numerous candidates.  This is also like it is currently a buyers market for houses in SA.
All I can say is some people battle for months to just find a job, while you guys have something on the table to start off with.

Later,
Vernon
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Offline kol1974

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Re: Can we live on this?
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2009, 07:00:59 pm »
Hey Jamoma,  we had a discussion on the living cost on this forum previously, think it was late last year.  Perhaps the moderators can lend a hand.  If you have residency a whole lot of other benefits come into play if you remain a stay at home mom.  Tax cuts, allowances etc.

Offline Anna007

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Re: Can we live on this?
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2009, 11:05:54 pm »
Ok, here goes…moet my asb nie doodgooi met die klippe nie  8)

I definitely agree that different people can live with different amounts of money, and we all make the decisions we have to, to help us progress to a better life, and therefore all I can do is to give my humble opinion…

We live on the North Shore (Auckland), me, the DH and 2 teenagers.
My opinion: A family of 5 MIGHT (and I repeat MIGHT) be able to survive on $1 000 per week, but it will be very very tight… :( you will not have money for any luxuries or money for any unforeseen expenses.
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Re: Can we live on this?
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2009, 02:48:40 am »
Ok, here goes…moet my asb nie doodgooi met die klippe nie  8)

I definitely agree that different people can live with different amounts of money, and we all make the decisions we have to, to help us progress to a better life, and therefore all I can do is to give my humble opinion…

We live on the North Shore (Auckland), me, the DH and 2 teenagers.
My opinion: A family of 5 MIGHT (and I repeat MIGHT) be able to survive on $1 000 per week, but it will be very very tight… :( you will not have money for any luxuries or money for any unforeseen expenses.


DITTO !!

It will put food on the table, but it won't be skaapboud en malvapoeding.

You will need to get a job to help out, that will make all the difference.

A friend in Auckland recently said a good way of looking at it is $100 per person per week

as a minimum to get by on. Hope it helps.
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Re: Can we live on this?
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2009, 02:55:46 am »
55 is ok if its half of the family income.

if its the only income and you have kids... then perhaps you will be a bit tight.
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Re: Can we live on this?
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2009, 03:08:02 am »
Anna007, you may be right, but the package does include company car & petrol + cellphone allowance.  That could equate to substantial savings on the monthly bills.

But then, I don't live in Auckland  ::), so you guys will know better.

As Vernon says, anyone looking for a job right now unfortunately does not have much choice at all.  Jenny, you guys might just have to "bite the bullet" and take that job to get your foot in the door.  It does bring you benefits that you otherwise would not have.  But it WILL be hard on the family.  Only with the right attitude, some medium-term goals, and some clear commitment/understanding/agreement about why the family needs to make a new start in NZ, can you make it work for you.  You must get the kids to "buy into it" big time, otherwise this will become a bigger burden.

Good luck  :gl: & 'sterkte' with the decision.

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Offline noodles mom

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Re: Can we live on this?
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2009, 03:15:09 am »
just to compare and let you know how you CAN live - we live in Whangarei, have 1 child (3 years old) and we live on $40 320 - in real money, $650 per week - yes, we don't have anything for luxuries but i can do the weekly groceries, petrol and rent a small 3 bedroom house in a good area - some weeks are worse than others, like when the electricity or phone bill are due, but we make do. OH drinks beer & i smoke, so there you have it...



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Re: Can we live on this?
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2009, 04:38:46 am »
dont butter it  up.

55 is not enough.. if its the only income,  you will not manage unless you are living alone and living modest.  If its the only income of a family, it is not enough.  If you have kids , its not enough. If it is a part of a family income,  depends on the other part
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Offline Anna007

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Re: Can we live on this?
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2009, 05:43:07 am »
 To add to all the discussions:
-   Doesn’t matter what you were used to/standard of living was in SA, or how you are prepared to live in NZ, the fact of the matter is that you will still need to pay for rent, gas/electricity and food for 5. A $1 000 a week will be very tight, as long as you know that and are prepared for everything that comes with that.
-   It might also depend on the ages of your kids as there is a huge difference in the needs of a 3 year old and a teenager.
-   I have never felt the need to “Keep up with the Joneses” in NZ, I did however experience that culture to be very alive and well in good old SA.
-   “It all depends on what you make of it” isn’t always true…living on the breadline can create a whole lot of issues which can add a lot of stress to your household.
-   No one really knows if YOU/your family would be able to survive on $1 000 a week, WE/our family couldn’t.
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