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Offline Nolan

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Re: Immigration Advice
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2011, 11:28:17 AM »
just bumping this up as a reminder, thanks guys O0

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Re: Immigration Advice
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2011, 11:40:39 AM »
OMG, I am so so so so so SORRY!!!  :(
 I never meant any harm, I'm new, but been officially warned!!! :-X

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Re: Immigration Advice
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Re: Immigration Advice
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2011, 05:20:51 AM »
OMG, I am so so so so so SORRY!!!  :(
 I never meant any harm, I'm new, but been officially warned!!! :-X

I feel that Australia and New Zealand have really little to fear in the world...but themselves.

One of the first things a Saffer needs to understand in either of these two countries is that it is even more PC than you could have imagined. The goverment is essentially much more interested and involved in the day to day lives of people - hence all the new rules and new laws added on a regular basis.

Ever heard Kiwis and Ausies talk about a 'nanny - state' ?
Born Saffer, now Kiwi and currently living in Oz.... It's a tri-nations life.

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Re: Immigration Advice
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2011, 08:33:54 PM »
There seems to be so much confusion about providing immigration advice but this is on the INZ website and to me it looks like you can provide free informal/family advice http://www.immigration.govt.nz/community/stream/advise/whocanadvise.htm

So howcome it's a problem on here?  :confused: :confused:

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Re: Immigration Advice
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2011, 10:10:43 PM »
So howcome it's a problem on here?  :confused: :confused:

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Now that is a good question ?? ??
Aren't we doing it in an informal / family type forum environment?? ??  ::)
I think we are  :whistle:
Don't you??
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Re: Immigration Advice
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2011, 10:49:01 PM »
So howcome it's a problem on here?  :confused: :confused:

 ???
 :confused:
 :-\
Now that is a good question ?? ??
Aren't we doing it in an informal / family type forum environment?? ??  ::)
I think we are  :whistle:
Don't you??
SAKB

That's what I think - surely this is an informal environment similar to a facebook group and there's no joining fee or any money changing hands etc  :help:

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Re: Immigration Advice
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2011, 11:02:20 PM »
I think that's easy to say when you are not the administrator or a moderator of the site, there are few consequences.

The moderators are the guys who will catch the flak if something is provided when it shouldn't be. They are the people who land up in court having to defend any action taken against them. They are the people who potentially have their permanent residences revoked, or who are potentially not allowed to become citizens.

If I was a moderator, I would not allow it and would delete any post that remotely looked like advice, I'd be much tougher than they are currently are. And if it persisted I'd close the forum.

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Re: Immigration Advice
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2011, 11:02:20 PM »

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Re: Immigration Advice
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2011, 11:34:16 PM »
unfortunately a forum like this falls into the "systematically" category. In other words although you may be giving advice to someone now on a "family / casual" basis, you will then do it again tomorrow to help somebody else. The minute you do that, you are providing advice systematically. The law clearly states "irrespective of whether it's for financial gain or not". In other words we can't even help each other for free.

Then there is the fact that the info remains on the site, so anybody can access it, which puts that advice firmly into the "systematic" category.

I hate this new law as much as everybody else as it swept away my livelyhood, that I had planned and worked so hard to achieve for more than 3 years before arriving in NZ - why do you think I have been so scarce on the forum the last 2 odd years? I had to start all over again in a different field  :crazy2:

Worst of all it took away all the awesome help that saved so many folks tens of thousands of Rands in immigration agent fees.

I do see other sites still allowing folks to post immigration advice, but I don't have $100 000 to take that chance? Do you, because according to the law it will not just be me that will be fined, but the person that provided that advice too?

At least we are still able to help in other ways O0

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Re: Immigration Advice
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2011, 01:54:04 AM »
At least we are still able to help in other ways O0

No problem Nolan. It just looked like there was a whee bit of a chance that we could help each other again.
No probs,
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Re: Immigration Advice
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2011, 04:08:46 AM »
No problem, Nolan.  I just wanted to understand 'cause I got shot down on a FB page when I warned them about this.  Is there a link or a source I can point them to?  And how would a person know about this regulation/law because clearly these people know nothing about this?

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Re: Immigration Advice
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Re: Immigration Advice
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2011, 08:47:45 PM »
Thanks, Nolan.  I've warned them and now it's up to them  O0

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