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Offline MetalFaerie

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So here we are...
« on: June 02, 2010, 07:26:06 AM »
So here we are..

Last week I decided to move to New Zealand.  It is not a decision that was made in the heat of the moment, I have been wanting to emigrate for years and have never done it. 

When I met my husband 10 years ago, I told him I wanted to move overseas one day.  I always thought it would be Australia but now It’s going to be New Zealand.

Why now?  Why NZ?

I was born in Zimbabwe and moved down South at the age of 6.  Unable to renew my Zim citizernship, I became a S’African citizen at age 16.  ( My dad was born in SA anyway)

I have been watching the country with interest over the ladt 15 years.  Initially back in ’94 I was very hopeful about SA.  Unfortunately the sheer corruption of our Government and the slow death of democracy have killed that hope.  People don’t notivce the little changes every day that are turning SA into another Zim.  Zimbabwe never had the violent crime that runs rampant here.

I live in a cul de sac, If I see any other car behind me (en route home), I drive around the block before going home.  I’m always aware of who is around me while driving.  Walking in shopping centres, I keep my bag close and keep an eye on my surroundings.

As we live next to an open field, our home has been burgled 4 times.  We were lucky though, a neighbour up the road had thugs jump over the wall and shoot him dead.  A few months ago we got home to find our puppy limping and the gate jammed open.  The next day a neighbour said they saw a tall, white man jump over the wall, fiddle with the gate and pull a bakkie into the driveway.  So all preconceptions about who the criminals are must be done away with.  (I don’t care who you are and what you look like, if you are acting suspicious, I am wary)

I don’t like watching the news because it gives me sleepless nights, I especially struggle with violence against children.
However crime is but only one concern.  Last year I was retrenched and struggled to find work again.  I am working on contract but cannot get permanent employment at the company due to BEE.

I pay more than half my salary to put my kids in a private school.  Public schools are terrible with 40+ in a class and no being kept back even if you fail.

We are not rich South Africans.  So we may as well have a similar standard of living but a much better quality of life in New Zealand.

I have family in Australia and my mom and stepdad will be there within 3 years.  They have really clamped down on immigration and I think even with family sponsorship it will be difficult for us to get in and I can’t wait 5 years.

The more I look into New Zealand, the more I like it.  So much so that if my kids are settled, I won’t uproot them to go to Aus in several years.

I have a diploma in Computer Graphics and Animation and have worked in Graphic Design and video production but in SA I prefer to work as a Personal Assistant because the pay and work hours are better.  So I need to refresh my Graphic Design skills.  My husband has no formal qualifications, after 12 years in the Spring Steel industry, he moved into the Mining Sector last year and works in Logistics, supplying pipes to the mines.  He is very handy and technicallly minded and made all the burglar proofing in our home (no they didn’t get in at the last attempt thanks to our burglar proofing)

So I’m going to keep up the family tradition and emigrate.  My grandparents moved from Wales to Rhodesia after World War 2.  My widowed mom moved to South Africa. (My grandparents later joined us and died a few years ago)

Now it’s my turn and I’m excited and terrified at the same time.   O0

I want to lodge my EOI before the end of the year.  I see some peole’s turnaround times between EOI and arrivng in NZ/ or getting PR is less than a a year, so that is what I am hoping for.

The process looks a little overwhelming at this point.  A migration agent is out of the question due to financial constraints.  However I’m very good at research and I love a cheallenge so I think I can do it (with your support)

I plan to be in NZ by 2012.  (crossed fingers) ;)

I see that some people have not had the positive experiences they had hoped for by immigrating, however I know that New Zealand is a different country , with a different culture and I don’t plan to be some whenwe that whinges (ala ex Rhodies in the 80’s)  We are prepared to work hard and I hope that we are able to find jobs in NZ.

In the meantime I will search the forums and post a ton of questions if I need help. :confused:

Thanks for this website 

Karen

Offline SaKiwiBoer

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Re: So here we are...
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2010, 07:51:41 AM »
Well that is a introduction!!!
All that's left to say is  :welcome: and we hope you enjoy the ride.
Cheers, SAKB
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Offline Awa

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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2010, 08:44:51 AM »
 :welcome: Karen.   Yes the paperwork is pretty daunting but don't worry you'll get through it!  Just remember to be careful what you ask on the forum as we are not allowed to give immigration advice anymore - go check out the guidelines on the Home Page.  However for all other chats this is the place to be!  Good luck with the rest of your process and keep us up to date! O0
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Offline bezsteyn

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Re: So here we are...
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2010, 09:14:28 AM »
 :welcome: Karen.
Maybe we should get in touch - My EOI is ready to submit and my Brother in Law went over cowboy style 2 weeks back. We could compare notes and learn from each other

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Re: So here we are...
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2010, 09:46:29 AM »
Welcome Karen ,  a long, sad and common story you told .  Glad that you have decided that enough is enough.  I personally don't think you need to hire a consultant.  The NZIS is very helpful and easy to get around. 

Good Luck and keep safe

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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2010, 10:29:31 AM »
I missed that part why you have to wait till 2012.
i think your skill is on the shortage list,  but i am always nervous when it gets taken off the shortage list, Or at least i think it is on the shortage list
2008-04-06 Landed
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Offline MetalFaerie

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Re: So here we are...
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2010, 10:59:30 AM »
Heya

Thanks for the prompt responses.

Definiteley would be interested in corresponding and comparing notes.

Are there any other Graphic Designers out there?  I think my skill is on the short term and not long term list.  Problem is I only did a one year course not 3 year degree, though to be fair it was quite new then.

Just over a year ago my uncle went over cowboy style and came back within the three months.  The family stayed behind.  He is an IT professional who specialises in linux and works with the banks.  Unfortunately he had already sold his souse and they had to buy again when he returned.
He just turned 50, so I think he is staying put now.

I'm at the research stage.  Need my daughter's unabridged certificate.  We don't even have passports, ha ha ha. (Have had before - been to Oz on holiday but not NZ)

I want to be in NZ by 2012 - better get cracking.

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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2010, 12:48:18 PM »
Hi,

I already welcomed you in your other post.

wow what a story!

 :gl2: with all your decisions, paperwork etc and keep us posted on your progress.



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Re: So here we are...
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2010, 04:51:48 PM »
 :welcome: Karen... you are not alone.. we are also in the beginning stages and have so far applied for the unabridged certificates (have both parents details like ID number etc) - the new forms want this information.  Takes 6 - 8 weeks... so that is a good place to start.. unabridged, police clearance, and of course PASSPORTS... oh and if you go for children's passports - BOTH parents must be present with positive identification (green bar coded identity books) - they gave us such hell cause hubby only has a passport - his ID was stolen... I was ready to  :fight: and started....but because we where there JUST before closing time...things happen a lot quicker - Friday afternoon is a good day..they all want to Chi-La on time...then you'll see how quickly they actually CAN work if they wanted to.  :uglystupid2:
As others have mentioned... any immigration questions are  :ban: - but if you're not sure - post it anyway - Nolan will quickly take it off or others here will just not answer..  :whistle:

I hear exactly what you saying.. been a victim of crime one too many times myself. :tickedoff:
Enough eventually just becomes enough.... we are all like minded people on this forum...and those already in NZ are a GREAT help...  :twothumbs:

Here you'll have "friends without faces"  :2funny: that will help when you're  :'( and rejoice with you when things start happening.  :yippee:
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Re: So here we are...
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2010, 07:47:36 PM »
...but because we where there JUST before closing time...things happen a lot quicker - Friday afternoon is a good day..they all want to Chi-La on time...then you'll see how quickly they actually CAN work if they wanted to.  :uglystupid2:

Cyclewife, I was told by a friend that I should go to home affairs at 2: 45 as they close the doors at 3 pm so that they can go home.  Any time of the week.  This is in Cape Town, however.  This I did, and sure enough, the doors closed at 3 so they didn't let anyone else in and I was just in the queue for an hour and out of there. :clap: :clap: :clap: 

I had my passports and birth certificate posted back (you pay an extra R10 ) which meant that I did not have to go back and queue to pick them up.  The passports arrived timeously, BUT the birth certificate NEVER arrived !!  Luckily, I had only applied as I thought I had lost it, but found it in due course. 

Good luck

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Re: So here we are...
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2010, 08:36:39 PM »
Good luck on your journey.  As someone else posted, NZIS are actually excellent, and if you're willing to do the research, doing this without a consultant can be done.  Only if your case is unusually unique is there perhaps need for an immigration specialist - and then, a lawyer that specialises in immigration is probably what you need.

Again - good luck and wishing you strength.

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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2010, 08:49:10 PM »
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As others have mentioned... any immigration questions are  :ban: - but if you're not sure - post it anyway - Nolan will quickly take it off or others here will just not answer..  :whistle:

 :eek:

Please don't do that, that could get the site shutdown  :-\ If you are unsure if the question you are about to ask could break the immigration advisors law, please pm me your question before you post it and i'll give you the go ahead or not.

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Offline MetalFaerie

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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2010, 07:50:33 AM »
Hi

Thanks for the encouragement and support.

Don't worry I know asking immigration advice is illegal, that's why I wanted to get in touch with people with similar qualifications to me, or no qualifications but loads of experience like my husband.

Immigration consultants and lawyers!  Are they worth it?  I'm trying to pay off debt and save for the application, I can't afford another R40k for a lawyer.  (Guess that means it will be easier to adapt in NZ as I'm not living the high life in SA, with a mansion and a BMW - yes I have been doing some reading on the forums)

Would it be worth paying for just ONE consultation?  My case is that unique that it would warrant this?  I may be born in Zim but I am a S'African citizen!  It just means that if I struggle to get into NZ I can go to the UK on Ancestral visa but its so cold over there and overpopulated.

Here's another funny story from home.

We live in a neighbourhood where there is one long street that runs through, with 2 entrances on either side.  In February part of the road on the side by the river collapsed due to heavy rains, so they just blocked off the whole road.  As of today, it is still blocked.  A few months ago the local caxton rag had a picture saying it was still not repaired but even that did not spur them on to fix it.  When I phoned the municipality they had 'no idea' of the road closure and gave me a reference number.  These reference numbers are Municipality's way of pacifying citizens, they mean nothing.

So as I said, it's not just the crime that is a concern (though it is A HUGE problem)  I am sick of living in a third world country. I would not want to live in South America either.  I'm busy reading a book on this guy's (Gilbert Goor) adventures while sailing around the world. Seems that the bureaucracy is the same in all third world countries.  I just at the part where he stops in NZ for a bit.  I find his comments amusing as he writes his thoughs and warns that he is not PC.
I think he found the NZ'ers less more easygoing than the Aussies. 

There is no African success story, no country has become better of since independence and lifted itself to a first world country.  So what makes people think SA will be any better?  SA does have something that most of the other African countries did not - violent crime and extreme xenophobia.  But you know, most people can get along quite well with other.  It's politician's and idiots like Malema and ET that bring out the hatred in each  other and the population.

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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2010, 02:13:03 PM »
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As others have mentioned... any immigration questions are  :ban: - but if you're not sure - post it anyway - Nolan will quickly take it off or others here will just not answer..  :whistle:

 :eek:

Please don't do that, that could get the site shutdown  :-\ If you are unsure if the question you are about to ask could break the immigration advisors law, please pm me your question before you post it and i'll give you the go ahead or not.

OOPS sorry now I understand why my question regarding my husband's medical went missing LOL. I just assumed I didn't click POST.

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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2010, 09:30:34 PM »
 :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: OOPS>..... sorry Nolan.

Ok - let me rephrase that...if you are not sure about what you're about to write - PM Nolan... :whistle:
Medicals Done - 31 Aug 2011
LTBV app sent - 16 Sept 2011
LTBV approved - 10 Feb 2012
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