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Offline Tui

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Maori traditions.......????
« on: July 31, 2010, 01:59:47 am »
My son has 3 very good Maori mates here in OZ - generally very nice lads (hell...BIG.. :o but great kids!) I often pop into their homes as have become friends with the moms - and noticed that all shoes HAVE to be taken off before entering the home..... :clap: The one family in particular, their home is SPOTLESS....more that I can say for some of the Aussie's here...(sorry...my experience) I have yet to ask the family where that tradition comes from and if it is ALL Maori families that do it. Do not want to sound rude or ignorant....

One thing is for sure.....once over there - I shall be doing that...their carpets are still spotless after years!! ::) Oh, they also do not allow their pets indoors...AT ALL...and have to stay outside....okay...that for me will be a problem..... :-\


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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2010, 02:07:46 am »
I don't think it's only a "Maori" tradition. It seems to be a "Kiwi" thing because even the Pakeha's do that. Even some of the SA'ns do that...  :2funny:
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2010, 02:15:35 am »
It's definitely a Kiwi thing!!  No one goes into anyone's houses here with their shoes on.  We now do the same and its amazing how much cleaner the carpets stay.  One thing the Kiwi's are known for here are having very light coloured carpets in most of the houses.  We're had a beige carpet in two of our houses now and its absolute hell keeping them clean with the clay at all the houses.


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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2010, 02:43:59 am »
Excellent! so when we are settled and we invite you all over for a braai  - you will know the drill... :clap: Just have to add....note to self....invest in some decent socks.... :2funny:



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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2010, 02:59:57 am »
Having lived in Asia for many years, we are very used to it.  You never go into anyones home with your shoes on.  We do this here in NZ too.  Even if someone says its ok, I still take my shoes off, as it feels too strange not to.  And if you think of it, you are bringing in all sorts of *** into your house that you have been walking on.  Especially the cities. 

What is strange in Malaysia, is that they think nothing of taking your shoes to wear if they pop out for a minute.  There are often so many shoes outside a door, all scattered everywhere, that people just put on the nearest ones. 

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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2010, 03:36:12 am »
It's a great idea Savayla - yes, you see all the shoes outside the Kiwi houses here as well - looked rather strange when we first arrived.....my sons mate's mom keeps her 'house slippers' just inside the front door - for a quick clean change...those slippers have never seen the light of day..... :whistle: But yes - you can eat of the floor, so spotless is it!!!


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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2010, 09:34:22 pm »
Yip we do it in our house too and al my son's friends that come over do it too.  They seem to learn this from small here in Kiwiland.    Remember when visiting Maori people not to EVER sit on a table (yes some people actually do), and never put hair 'stuff' like brushes or clips or scrunchies on a table on which you put food. 
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2010, 10:55:03 pm »
Yip we do it in our house too and al my son's friends that come over do it too.  They seem to learn this from small here in Kiwiland.    Remember when visiting Maori people not to EVER sit on a table (yes some people actually do), and never put hair 'stuff' like brushes or clips or scrunchies on a table on which you put food. 

Not that I do, but just to find out what the reason would be for this??
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2010, 11:58:39 pm »
this mud is a right b*tch to get out of your carpets. especially the light colored ones.

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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2010, 04:50:00 am »
Introducing yourself to Maori's can be quite a challenge - especially in a formal setting and especially for us as Saffers who are not that used to affiliating ourselves to our ancestors and the environment.  At my work in a formal setting this is how I have to introduce myself:

Ko Jackie Surname toku ingoa (My name is Jackie Surname)
Ko Selina Surname toku mama (My mother is Selina Surname)
Ko Ruben Surname toku papa (My father is Ruben Surname)
Ko Afrikaaners te iwi (My tribe is the Afrikaaner people)
Ko Pilanesberg te maunga (Pilanesberg is my mountain affiliation)
Ko Gauteng te rohe (Gauteng is the place I come from or my place)
No Awherika ki te Tonga au (I come from Africa in the South)
He Aka Tea toku turanga (My position at this company is administration)
Kei Company Name toku mahi (Company name is where I do my work)

It seems very easy but when you have to do it in front of a whole bunch of Maori's it is not funny at all.  At informal gatherings I can introduce myself in Afrikaans (which they love as they are a people who are very proud of their heritage and they have respect for you when you show you are proud of yours).  After the Afrikaans introduction I have to repeat in English so that everyone understands.
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2010, 05:59:31 am »
Thank-you Schalk for that interesting read! Jackie - congrates! OMGosh - a intro like that - I could never pull it off!! :sweat: :sweat: you are  old hat at it..... :clap: :clap: you have it sussed! The Maori people are really interesting - I have been looking at some of their Art - just amazing.... O0 Ps.....I hope my hubby does not see this bit.....I just love some of the Maori tattoo's the art in them is really beautiful - not like most of the awful ones you see around - theirs are more spiritual - I might just have a very small one done......ONE day..... :heeha:

Oh, boy.....hubby... :tickedoff:


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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2010, 06:20:20 am »
Great info, thanks!

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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2010, 08:40:47 am »
My mom back in SA still forces everyone to take their shoes off before entering her house - she has for years!
But I must agree, it certainly makes a HUGE difference in keeping homes clean!

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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2010, 08:45:55 am »
My mom back in SA still forces everyone to take their shoes off before entering her house - she has for years!
But I must agree, it certainly makes a HUGE difference in keeping homes clean!
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2010, 08:55:11 am »
That started in the years when most houses had the wooden Paquay (sp?)flooring. The women's high heel shoes with the nail at the end used to make terrible dents into the wood. We also had that problem .