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Offline groenlemoen

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Re: My front door wide open !!
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2011, 12:37:18 AM »

but would you walk into pack n save, climb on a box, and yell out that your house is currently unoccupied and unlocked?  It boils down to exactly the same thing when you declare that on a public forum, whether you use a dummy name or not.

Just be aware of what you say and where you say it - that is all.

As previously mentioned - most kiwis would probably wonder what the big deal is, because most of their houses are also unlocked. Only a saffer will find that strange!!!


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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2011, 07:03:08 AM »
Those who believe all violent crime ( not murder ) get reported in the media is sadly mistaken. Guy got randomly stabbed in the neck at New World in Takapuna - less than a kilometer from where I live - first time this got publicity was 9 months later on police 10/7 - nothing in the NZ Herald or North Shore Times.

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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2011, 07:03:08 AM »

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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2011, 09:08:12 AM »
I work with the courts in Waikato (both youth and adult) and I can assure you that not all violent crime makes the news - but then I would venture to say that no matter where you live in the world this will be the case.   The fact of the  matter is that NZ is heaps safer than SA and I don't think that was ever in dispute.  Most kiwi's I know don't lock their house or car doors and it is great to live in a society like that.  Having said that it does not mean that things do not happen and I fail to see the point of interrogating Rockhopper about what happend to his friend - just because it was not in the news does not mean it did not happen and asking for case numbers etc is sort of insinuating that he is lying.  I can google any number of cases I deal with everyday and would not find it reported however I know it happened as I have the court docs.  We have to face facts - crime is increasing all over the world but we did not move all the way from SA to NZ to come here and live in fear.  For  most of us the novelty of feeling safe will never wear off and this in itself is great but when we are victims of crime in our new country (or know someone who is) it will automatically bring back negative feelings and fears.   As we live in a violent world we need to continue to be cautious within reason in NZ without falling into the paranoid state that was reasonable and normal in SA. 
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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2011, 10:17:27 AM »


Crime? What crime?

Saturday, July 24, 2010 • Christine McCafferty

GISBORNE police have decided to restrict the information on crime they provide to media in a move to “make the community feel safer”.

Up until now, The Gisborne Herald has been given detailed reports of crimes attended by police, including burglaries, domestic violence and the arrests that make up our daily “Police briefs”.

But earlier this week area commander Inspector Sam Aberahama said comprehensive information would no longer be provided. He saw no benefit in “reporting all and sundry”.

The decision coincides with the appointment of new station supervisor Detective Sergeant Mick Lander, who introduced a similar policy in Rotorua where he has moved here from.

Their media release yesterday said this was a bid to “streamline information” from police in favour of a more “comprehensive approach” to inform the community of their activities.

“Our daily feed of information to the media does not provide the right recipe for the community in terms of important information they need to know. A lot of that has to do with how the public views the city or community they live in,” Mr Aberhama said.

“Research has shown that the public’s perception of their community is influenced largely by what they read in the media. In the majority of cases, the detailed reporting of incidents does not provide a clear and accurate picture of what is actually going on in a community.”

Only a small percentage of the population were directly affected by crime but that view could be “skewed” by detailed media reports that gave the impression crime was rampant throughout a city.

Instead of providing lists of every incident reported to police, it was far more practical to provide an overview of any specific crime problem that was occurring in the city or a suburb, Mr Aberahama said.

“This bid to ‘streamline’ information going out to the community sounds like it has come straight out of a Communist handbook,” said Gisborne Herald editor Jeremy Muir.

While he agreed making the community “feel safe” was a big part of policing, Mr Muir said actually making it safer was far more important.

“We strongly believe that our careful reporting on crime straight after it happens helps our community know what is going on and allows people to play a role in solving crimes.”

Mr Muir asks Gisborne police to provide the research they say backs up this major policy change.

“The only study they have cited to us is a Rotorua council survey that says very little about the effect of crime reporting on public perceptions. ‘Media profile of crime’ is bunched in with eight reasons in the ‘other’ category.

“We have a long history of trust with the Gisborne police. We respect their wishes when they ask for some things not to be reported for various reasons.

“Instead of being asked to recalibrate this relationship, we have been presented with a fait accompli that sounds a lot like they want us to be a propaganda mouthpiece.

“We are sure this policy change will go down badly in the community. We have a small-enough population in Gisborne and on the Coast that people know each other and really care about those around them.

“They are used to knowing what is going on and we believe they will see this new policy as patronising. It will also cut off avenues for solving crime.”

District commander Sam Hoyle was not available for comment and Police National Headquarters did not respond on whether the changes here would become national policy.

Police Minister Judith Collins also failed to respond, despite numerous messages left with her press secretary yesterday and this morning.

New Zealand Police this month introduced a monthly reporting system, designed to give a “snapshot” of police activity.

Currently, official crime statistics are published every six months, and a summary of police activities is published in an annual report.

The monthly indicators would complement the reporting systems, providing a “snapshot” of crime and preventive activities by police, Assistant Commissioner Grant Nicholls said.

“Reporting statistical indicators monthly will allow us to more regularly provide information on topical crimes,” he said.

Mr Aberahama said police were not trying to withhold information or “paint a prettier picture”.

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Re: My front door wide open !!
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2011, 11:27:47 AM »
Okay all of you ! Yes rockwhatesname is right - we mustn't be too complacent and not a good idea to reflect one's address etc on the web. But we used to have a 2 way radio, alarm, beams in the garden, palisade, electric fence, electronic gates and security guards >>>> Now the chooks, dogs and ducks come in to say hi. But yes we are sensible and 'sluit die deur en vensters' when we go out just coz I'm so conditioned to it !!! And yes crime on increase since recession... but generally not as violent etc as in SA. I can go for evening walks with hub, drive with window open bla bla bla. But as saffers I think we have an inbuilt radar to remain vigilant and there is no harm in that. But I sleep peacefully now !  :clap: :clap: :clap: :) :) :) :D :D :D :hug: :hug: :hug: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
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Re: My front door wide open !!
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2011, 04:01:16 AM »
I agree with Evita and Rockhopper.  We can start becoming SO blazé about being a free country, that we open ourselves up to being exploited. 

I am not paranoid.  Have not been in SA for the past 13 years, and don't walk around with fear on my shoulder.  BUT I don't tempt fate by leaving my car unlocked at the store, or leaving the house unlocked intentionally.  Yes, there have been times when I've driven off, and thought the garage door had been closed, only to come back to a wide open garage door (and our computers are in the office next door, with no lock on it).  I was shocked and glad that nothing bad had happened.  But that doesn't mean that as a result I'm now going to not bother closing the garage door when leaving.  I have simply adopted the habit of pressing the remote, and watching my rear view mirror to make sure the door is down, before driving off.  No big deal.  Yes, if something does get stolen when our house is left open, it's our own fault.  But I know how I would feel if I walked into my home, and somebody HAD taken advantage of the open house... and stolen something.  I just don't want that to happen, so I prefer to still lock my house, and car.  And I although I have left my wallet in the cubby once when dashing in to a place, I still don't leave anything tempting out in the open where it can be seen. 
As Rockhopper said, it's not paranoia, just being responsible with what we have.   :)
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