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Offline Eileen

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Re: SA skills shortage an 'urban legend'
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2007, 09:16:51 am »
"Gumpf"  :censored:



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Re: SA skills shortage an 'urban legend'
« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2007, 10:09:14 am »
I don't know why every body in SA who is involved in staffing do come forward with a lot of stories. Somebody should openly come forward and say, White males will not get work, education and work experience does not count anything. If your not of color or previsiously disadvantage you will not be allowd to get a job. Don't bulldust by all the soft talk, they should say it as is, then every one knows, mostly those that don't see through all the stories. Then immigrations all over the world can get busy with immigration request from white SAns. The SA government could help white SAns to get out even perhaps financially assist you to get out, and then every one will be happy. They can stuff up SA and we can go on with life.

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« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2007, 10:09:14 am »

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Re: SA skills shortage an 'urban legend'
« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2007, 10:34:24 am »
and spare a thought for those 'in between', first they where not white enough and now they are not black enough.  :tickedoff:

Apartheid is still well and alive in the 'New' SA.  :thumbdown:

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Re: SA skills shortage an 'urban legend'
« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2007, 10:38:14 am »
and apartheid will be as long as politics screw up in this country

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Re: SA skills shortage an 'urban legend'
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2007, 11:19:57 am »
I am sitting here nodding my head in approval. In a nutshell....those who are contributing to the sad state of this country are welcome to stay and live in the hell they have created....the rest of us should be allowed to get out....
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Re: SA skills shortage an 'urban legend'
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2007, 10:21:59 pm »
Wow, look, the Urban Legend is spreading  :2funny:

Economist.com
13 June 2007

A painful shortage of skilled workers


South Africa’s economy is in danger of overheating as spending grows faster than productive capacity. With skills shortages the binding constraint there is no quick-fix remedy.

Strong economic expansion in South Africa has its downside. Since 2005 growth has been averaging 5%—well above the trend rate of some 4.5%—and the strains are starting to show. The country's infrastructure is creaking—roads are overcrowded, cement and refined fuels are having to be imported, and power outages are a growing problem—while according to the country’s largest bank, ABSA, managers are battling to cope with “severe shortages of skilled labour and production capacity constraints”, reflected in shortages of goods and services. Equally, the balance of payments is under pressure and the wages of skilled personnel, notably in the engineering, construction, mining and IT sectors, are rising ahead of productivity. In other words, the economy appears to be overheating, threatening to derail the successful inflation-targeting strategy, the rand and the government’s drive to push economic growth to around 6% annually.

 For some economists the main worry is the current-account payments deficit, although this moderated to 6.4% of GDP in the first three months of 2007, from 7.8% in the previous quarter, At present the deficit is being funded comparatively easily, mostly by portfolio inflows as foreigners buy up South African securities, but an emerging-markets sell-off—which many analysts believe to be inevitable over the next year—would hit South Africa hard, putting first the rand and then domestic interest rates under pressure.

For the time being, however, concern is focusing on the increasingly acute scarcity of skills. The South African Institute of Race Relations estimates that some 850,000 whites have left the country since 1995, reducing the white population (which, for historical reasons, is still the most skilled segment) to around 4.3m people from more than 5m a decade ago. ABSA believes that “the vast majority” of those who have left the country—or are contemplating doing so—are skilled people between the ages of 20 and 40. This white exodus is being compounded, according to the bank, by the increasing emigration of mixed-race, Asian and black professionals, especially from the public sector, which is losing medical, technical and engineering skills very rapidly.

The skills situation is being exacerbated by three other factors:
* The growing impact of HIV-AIDS on the supply of skills, especially in key areas such as teaching and nursing, and on productivity levels across the economy.

* “Tight controls” and protracted delays in the immigration of skilled personnel.

* A serious deterioration in education standards at schools, which are plagued by high drop-out rates. As a result, the majority of school-leavers are simply not sufficiently qualified in vital disciplines like maths, science and technology.

ABSA says there are “literally thousands” of vacancies in the public sector, which helps explain the visible deterioration in service delivery across the economy. The government’s own budget review admits that more than 60% of senior managers in municipalities have virtually no qualifications in finance or engineering, while most are inexperienced.

Skills mismatch
In the private sector business payrolls are rising rapidly as firms pay higher wages in an effort to attract (and retain) skills. In part this is explained by underlying, and welcome, structural change in the economy. As agriculture and mining become less important sectors so employers are seeking better-educated and more skilled workers in the manufacturing and services sectors, especially finance and IT.

On the downside this means that while in theory manufacturing industry ought to be able to expand output—it is currently operating at 87% of capacity, well above the long-term average of 80%—it cannot do so because the skills are not available. In the year to September 2006 total employment in South Africa rose by 2.7% but in manufacturing the increase was less than 1%, highlighting the mismatch between the demand for and supply of skills.

Physical capacity shortfalls are being addressed as both government and the private sector step up investment. The government plans to invest some US$60bn in infrastructure over the next four years, some of it—for example, new roads, the Gautrain commuter railway, airport development, and the construction and expansion of sports stadia—linked directly to the staging of the 2010 World Cup. However, this welcome (and arguably overdue) increase in investment is also being constrained by the skills shortage.

The fact is the South African economy is playing catch-up, not just in employment but in terms of capital investment. The creation of some 500,000 new jobs a year is beginning to make a dent on the country’s high levels of unemployment (still running at 26% or so), but there is a still a long way to go on both fronts.

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Re: SA skills shortage an 'urban legend'
« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2007, 10:48:40 pm »
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The creation of some 500,000 new jobs a year is beginning to make a dent on the country’s high levels of unemployment (still running at 26% or so), but there is a still a long way to go on both fronts.

26% or so, what utter rubbish - this has been one of my big beefs with our current 'government' since day one - they are doing bugger-all to create jobs. If they were, then there would be less crime in the country because everybody would be out working and I would not have to leave  >:(

As recently as 2002 the unemployment was around 52% (High levels of unemployment:
A long-run reality for South Africa by Dr CH Schoeman and Mr PF Blaauw
)- which means that out of 40 million people, there were 20.8 million people sitting at home scratching their bums.

Now they say that they are creating half a million jobs per year - from when? Lets say it was from 2002 onwards to give them the benefit of the doubt as I am an optimist. That means they have created jobs for 2.5 million people (including 2007).

That then brings the amount of unemployed down to 18.3 million (or around 46%)

If there was only unemployment of 26%, then only 10.4 million people would be scratching their bums.

That leaves a shortfall of 7.9 million people who are now mysteriously 'employed'.

Seems like they are now counting robber, highjacker, rapist and murderer as an occupation these days. Makes me wonder how long you have to study to occupy one of these occupations and if they are on the South African Immigration Skills Shortage list?

Judging by the amount of 'immigrants' in the country lately, it seems so?

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Re: SA skills shortage an 'urban legend'
« Reply #37 on: June 15, 2007, 01:57:09 am »
I cannot believe that the professions of robbers, hijackers and rapist are on the shortskills list. These are the only fields of employment that is living up to the expected levels of productivity in the SA economy.

Since the incorporation of Toordocters in the medial field the need for more University trained doctors are falling away, any case we have an trade agreement with Cuba for doctors.

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Re: SA skills shortage an 'urban legend'
« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2007, 07:19:39 am »
Havent you guys heard....Robbers and Hijackers are making more money than most people. Sure makes me wonder why I didnt think about that when I was making career decisions. I would have been rich
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Re: SA skills shortage an 'urban legend'
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2007, 09:06:44 am »
Hi yesterday evening we were nearly robbed. Quick thinking and fast speading away got us out ... that was close  ..

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Re: SA skills shortage an 'urban legend'
« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2007, 09:29:07 am »
Geez, Johan, you really need to get out of there soon >:(


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Re: SA skills shortage an 'urban legend'
« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2007, 03:09:17 pm »
Hemel Johan again?  What happend?

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Re: SA skills shortage an 'urban legend'
« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2007, 08:13:50 am »
We also had a close call on Sunday Morning 2am - watched as they walked up to our gate and the dog keep them out - they then went further up the road and burgled somebody else, but kept me standing guard for two hours (till no more dogs were barking) to ensure they didn't come back to our house. This has been happening a lot in the past two months, the worst is that the police will be called - drive up the road and back again without doing any real effort to look for them, they then drive away without even bothering to stop or climb out, never to be seen again that night.  >:(

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« Reply #43 on: June 18, 2007, 08:47:37 am »
My brother was in an armed robbery at his work on Friday, in East London. I thought it was only Joburg but its not.

Tied up, guns to head, lucky to be alive.
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Re: SA skills shortage an 'urban legend'
« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2007, 08:55:32 am »
this is really becoming patetic and way too close to home - come on NZIS  :knuppel2: