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Title: Crime in NZ??
Post by: Chan in Wellington on July 25, 2010, 06:57:08 am
Hi everyone,

I don't want to be negative about NZ at all, just wanting to know as much as possible before we get there.  We were watching 'NZ Illegal' on Friday night and were shocked to see the amount of problems over there - including farm murders?  Probably not as bad as SA, but everyone in SA is under the impression that there is zero crime in NZ.  How bad is it really?
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: jafa77 on July 25, 2010, 07:24:20 am
Most crime in NZ is petty and opportunistic. Many people leave houses unlocked or handbags left inside cars on full display.

NZ's murder rate is 66 on average. Most of those are domestic or gang related. A lot of prostitutes also seem to get murdered. I would estimate random murders of strangers being under 10 per year.

Crime is largely non-violent.

I was in the shower this morning and it occured to me that the doors were all open and I was alone at home.....it did not bother me one bit....I just realised how lucky I am. In SA I would have been terrified that I would have been murdered.

USA, Canada, Australia.....all have have moderate levels of crime but it is not like SA in any way. You dont feel on edge and scared all the time (in fact NEVER EVER).
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: Anna007 on July 25, 2010, 07:43:04 am
Op 'n skaal van 1 tot 10 is NZ 1 en SA 11  ;D
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: till23 on July 25, 2010, 08:02:27 am
Despite propaganda to the contrary CRIME RATES are actually very high. Definitely not nearly on the scale of SA. However, you have to compare apples with apples if you want to get a clearer picture. NZ is considered to be a 1st world country. Therefor a comparison with other 1st world countries is more appropriate to get a clearer picture of the "problem" and trends.

New Zealand is second only to Ireland in 26 OECD countries in internationally comparable data on vehicle, theft and contact crimes. 22% of New Zealanders experienced such a crime in a 12-month period, compared to an OECD average of 16%. You’re more likely to experience this type of crime in New Zealand than in almost any other country in the OECD.

In 2009 there was a sharp rise in HOME INVASIONS. There were 112 compared to 85 in 2008.

An independent think tank, The New Zealand Institute released a study which showed that New Zealand has the fifth highest MURDER RATE (assault mortality) in the OECD.

A UNICEF Report Ranks NZ as among the worst in OECD for CHILD ABUSE. A 2003 UNICEF report showed that New Zealand has one of the highest rates of child death from maltreatment (physical abuse and neglect) among rich OECD countries.

NZ ranked 25th on a league table of 27 countries with 1.2 deaths per 100,000 children.

New Zealand, along with Norway, is unusual in that SUICIDE RATES for young adults are greater than for older people. Most OECD countries have higher suicide rates for older people.


    * The NZ Institute placed NZ 5th out of 30 OECD countries for its high murder rate

    * In 2009 crime rose 3.5 percent, there were 9% more violent offences over 65,000. There were 65 murders, up 25% over last year, the highest figure for 10 years 10 years. Serious assaults up 6% and minor assaults increased nearly 12%.

    * 80% of people questioned think that crime is a serious problem in NZ

    * There was a total of 1,160 aggravated robberies in 2008, hardly a day goes by without an armed robbery occurring somewhere in New Zealand.

    * South Christchurch averages 150 burglaries a month

    * Whangarei averages about 27 burglaries a week (108 a month)

    * Nelson Bays averaged about 71 burglaries a month in 2009, or 847 in the year. This is an increase of 230 over 2008’s figures.

    * Tasman District averages  127 burglaries a month, or 1519 in 2009. That’s a rise of 248 since 2008.

    * The estimated social cost of sexual violence in NZ $1.2 billion per year. It is NZ’s most costly crime.

    * Alcohol offences skyrocketed in Palmerston North during 2009, up from 87 to 409 on the previous year.

Still much safer than SA. The upward trend and rate of increase is worrying.

Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: Centurionite on July 25, 2010, 08:04:00 am
One thing really postive - when crime happens here, the people are caught within hours or days most of the time.

Most of the murders are domestic related, I think last year they had 80 murders - of which 42 were domestic related.

I have never worried about being raped or murdered in NZ in the last few years,even though crime is on the increase - it is not much violent crime like in SA.
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: Awa on July 25, 2010, 08:10:26 am
I don't know why on earth the people in SA would think there is 0% crime in NZ  :confused: - a place like that does not exist anymore.  We have been here for about two years and I can honestly say that in that time I have never felt scared or anxious about crime.  It is not something that is really on your mind here.  Things do happen but the culprits are normally caught and the reaction from the kiwis are normally that of shock and disgust.  If the police take more than a couple of days to catch the criminals the public start giving them a hard time about not performing.  If you are looking for crime free - this is not the place.  If you are looking for a place where fear and crime is not going to be part of your life, NZ is a good choice. O0
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: jafa77 on July 25, 2010, 08:16:28 am
Well, the USA, UK, Australia, Canada and Finland all rank right up there with "high" crime levels. We cant all move to Switzerland!

No one claims NZ is crime free. Levels are similar to other western countries. The world has changed. NZ did have very low crime rates (like most rich countries) for a long time, but there is a growing disparity of wealth. Many young men (especially Maori and Pacific islander) have no hope, no future and so turn to gangs, drugs and crime.
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: jafa77 on July 25, 2010, 08:46:04 am
I was wondering who this newbie is with the 1st post being so negative.
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: Eileen on July 25, 2010, 08:55:50 am

OECD stats.... mmmm

Mertz??  Is that you??

Nolan, check maar daai IP addy.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: Nolan on July 25, 2010, 09:05:06 am
lol, let's give the person a chance, till23, you can start with an intro in the Howzit section O0
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: SaKiwiBoer on July 25, 2010, 09:32:05 am
  :2funny:  :2funny:  :2funny:
Got the same   :2funny:  feeling reading that first post.
Cheese and enjoy, SAKB
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: Savayla on July 25, 2010, 09:50:56 am
Cape Town has 4 million, NZ has 4 million.  So I usually use this as a basis when I think of crime.  It was much worse in Cape Town, and only 10 % of the crimes were reported in the papers.  Almost everything is reported in the papers here in NZ. 

Yes, there was a recent farm murder.  Very tragic.  But also, very unusual. 

This is not Utopia, this is the real world in the 21st century.   Yet, for me, this is very nearly Utopia.  We recently had two guys arrested, with armed rifles, guns, etc , after they had laid spikes on the road, as they had been on a 72 hour crime spree from Christchurch to Nelson.  I was giggling when I read the article, and looked at the photos of the cops and the crims.  They had stolen cars, stolen goods, and that was about it.  They had an air rifle in the back of the car.  There were no murders, no rapes involved. 

I feel very safe here.  I read the New Zealand Herald for 3 years, on a daily basis, when I as back in SA, and it put me off coming to New Zealand.  So we went to Asia instead.  Now that we are here, I realise that everything is reported and you don't actually see the crime.  Most of the murders are by someone they know. 

The only thing that really bothers me is the high rate of child abuse.  But that bothers me in any country. 

Remember, this country does have warts !!!!
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: Chan in Wellington on July 25, 2010, 04:24:54 pm
Thanks everyone, really appreciate your input on this....every bit of info is going into the 'bank' :)
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: expat on July 25, 2010, 06:07:53 pm
For me I sorted on some naieve level expected NZ to be crime free. I felt I had go give up so much in SA which was superior (and not just money fi history/friends etc ) this other place as a quid pro quo must not have crime. Although the rate is much lower and the police and justice system is superior it occurs on a large enough scale to make certain actions inherently unsafe.
It also depends on where you are -The Cape town stat has a flaw in that most of our crime believe it or not happens in the township/flats area. Although I have never been scared in SA I would lock my car and house and be alert wherever I find myself in the world.
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: maanhaarleeu on July 25, 2010, 10:42:27 pm
Hi Chan,

The best place to follow what is happening is usually in NZ's largest news paper www.nzherald.co.nz (http://www.nzherald.co.nz), well that is what I use, but keep in mind that papers like to get that shocking factor to sell their papers so not sure if that is a balanced view altogether.

till23 thank you for that in depth analysis, you certainly went to alot of trouble to paint NZ black  :tongue: but then again that is what Chan asked for isn't it.

That may be the cold hard facts which I'm not going to despute because like other members stated NZ is not crime free, but NZ certainly feels a whole lot safer to me than SA.
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: magusta on July 26, 2010, 01:06:57 am
a balanced view - refreshing.

crime is escalating, but it's nowhere near the atrocious levels in sa. cops are good and could be better still. we have not felt unsafe here at all in comparison with life in sa.

i had my brand new flash car stolen on the very 1st day i bought it. i was in the north shore at that stage, in a good suburb too. police found it a few hours later...trashed. fortunately insurance covered it.

we've left the front door and sliding doors unlocked a few times...for weeks without notice. our two year old boy loves opening the window latches/sliding door locks. currently the house alarm is on the fritz, but i couldn't be bothered. burglar bars..what's that again, with paper for walls it won't be much use anyway.

can't recall when last we locked the doors whilst driving...sa probably. car alarms keyfob battery is dead, never use it. i do pahk the cah in garahge. we do avoid 'bad' or perceived bad areas, but who doesn't?

a learned respected individual committed suicide at work by jumping of a 18 level carpark building, i saw the whole thing, messy. as an ex-saffa, i just shrugged it off, have seen/experienced worse. sad thing to be so desensitized i guess...

my colleagues had counselling, was off work, trouble coping etc.
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: LoveNZ on July 26, 2010, 02:13:54 am
now, these are posts that benefits everybody, whether in SA or NZ. Agree with all of you, there is crime n NZ, but when I go to bed at night, I know I am safe and so are my family. Keep it coming!!
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: Savayla on July 26, 2010, 04:51:43 am
Our electricity went out last night at 10:30 pm , and we needed to keep a new born chick at 33 degrees.  After getting hot water bottles, and waiting an hour, my hubbie decided to go for a drive and see if there were road works being done . 

For starters, in SA I would not have allowed him to go off into the middle of the night.  We were all in bed, and I just rolled over and said "ok".  Secondly, he left us all sleeping, with the doors unlocked. 

Imagine doing that in SA ?  No, you would never , ever do that. 

It is the simple things.  Like when I was cooking last night and needed some fresh mint.  I took a torch, went outside by myself, for a walk, and got some mint.  Not once did I hope that there were no people hiding in the bushes waiting to attack.  I did not think to listen, to put on an outside light, to call the dog (don't have one here  :)), look over my shoulder with my heart thumping.  I just went out and hubby didn't even question it either.

My daughter (9 1/2) takes her headlamp when it is pitch dark, and walks 300 metres, through two gates, to the chicken coop at the bottom of the paddock to tuck the hens in at night.  She spends about 15 minutes there and we don't worry. 

Yes, big crime happens, but crime does not happen to you at home like it does in SA.
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: zatexnz on July 26, 2010, 09:05:51 am
ok, everybody who's lived here for any amount of time, has given you the "truth of the matter", so I'll just say, yeah, it's like that. 

BUT I do want to give you a quick explanation for two items mentioned in that "statistics" breakdown of crime in NZ. 

1) Child abuse.  Please take note that this is mostly among the Moari people who have been known in the past "pre-civilized" era to participate in child sacrifice. (not that that is what is happening now, but that they seem to be pre-disposed to doing it).  Most of these issues are also with parents who are on drugs.   But mostly this is a cultural issue: I found an article (ableit 4 yrs old), which explains the issue very well:  The Maori Child Abuse Crisis (http://www.nzcpr.com/weekly38.htm)

2) Suicide rate.  I remember years ago, long before we came here, but shortly after my sister did, she mentioned this issue.  Having now lived here for 3 years, I am so not surprised by the high teenage suicide rate here.  What with the government doing away with parental rights to discipline their children... but even before that... teenagers are not brought up to have a sense of self-worth, a vision for the future...  Again, (I may be wrong on this account), I believe that this may also be more among the Moari than the Pakeha's (Europeans).   

Why? You ask.  Well, let see... How many of the Moari's have managed to live on the dole for GENERATIONS!?  If you are not working for a living, and the government is paying for you, and paying for your house and everything, then what are you living for?  You have no vision, no ambition to aspire to be the best (what with the whole stupid Tall Poppy Syndrome idea), and so the money you get from the government, gets spent on... what?  Drugs.  Because hey, at least the drugs give you some excitement  for a little while.  So does the adrenalin of tagging a building at night. 
Kids are getting pregnant in their early teens because it's now the in thing (worldwide) not to teach children that sex was designed for marriage, and when they do (fall pregnant), the government will pay them special money for their poor situation, and will even give them a flat to live in.  The above-mentioned link mentions this too.  The other day, a friend of ours was telling us of a young teenager who decided she didn't like her parent's rules, and so ran away.  The government supports this, by offering the teenager a flat of her own.  All paid for.  Hello.... if you don't have anything to live for, why live?  If you are not raised to take responsibility for your own actions, you will have unrealistic expectations of life.

Just today, my hubby Jan, was telling me there is a research done on Americans vs. Russians.  Why Americans seem to always be smiling, and Russians not.  Yet the Americans are not truly happy, and the Russians are content with their lives.  They determined that it was because Americans, and all the other silly countries that "look up to them to lead", are sold the "happily ever after" ends to all their stories - in books and in movies.  The Russian school children do not read books with happy endings.  They know the reality of life, and have no unrealistic expectations of it, and therefore cope better when life gets tough.

And so I read through Magusta's posting here, and nodded my head.  South Africans have become tough (desensitized yes?), because we've had to deal with a harder life.  Americans and NZ'ers are not used to "getting hurt" and so are appalled that life should ever hand them a lemon.

My 2c for the day.  ;)
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: Chan in Wellington on July 26, 2010, 09:18:50 am
@Colleen - perfect, then we should fit right into NZ, having lived our lives in SA.  Feeling a lot better now.  I know there is crime in NZ, but at least I now know that it's very insignificant, compared to what we deal with on a daily basis. 
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: Savayla on July 26, 2010, 09:47:46 am
Brilliant post Colleen !!! :clap: 

I think it is important to gather facts and find out who, what , where and why, before we start worrying.  One of my worries has always been the high death toll on the roads.  This was until i read an article in the latest AA magazine (automobile association, not the other AA  :2funny: )

It put it all in perspective.  So, if you do have the latest copy,  July, look it up.  If I am up to it, I may type it up verbatim. 
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: Feather on July 26, 2010, 10:01:51 am
I know I have told this story before, still remarkable to us.  Went shopping at a mall, both of us forgot to close the one back door of my little Mazda Demio  :heeha:  When we came out we saw the door open, thought the car had been broken into, discussed it for a while, then realised what we had done.  People walked passed the car and didn't touch it. They obviously thought that the car had been broken into.
I know that cars are being stolen from the malls, especially the one we were at.  We are very grateful that ours wasn't taken.
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: SaKiwiBoer on July 26, 2010, 07:40:59 pm
@ zatexnz... EXCELLENT POST !!!
All very true.
It reminds me of the old story of the "healthy" guy going to work everyday and everybody keeps telling him his pale and looks sick. Eventually one day the guy died because he "believed" he was seriously ill.
Now getting back to your explanation... If you keep on telling people that you'll look after them and they don't have to do anything then eventually they WILL expect it and wouldn't WANT to do something because there is no reason to do anything because I'll receive whatever I need from somebody else...
NOW DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT????
Ek is nie 'n sielkundige nie, maar dit maak nie vir my baie sin nie... ::)
Iets is fout met die' prentjie...  ::) .
There is a few things I would've changed in the NZ society, but I'm not in a position to do so...  ???
Cheers, SAKB
 
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: zatexnz on July 26, 2010, 11:21:53 pm
I am also reminded of 2001, when the twin towers in NY were bombed.  I was living in the States myself then, but in Texas, which is thousands of miles away.  I was shocked to see the footage of the planes going into the towers... and then later, of the towers crumbling... 
but what shocked me more, was my one US friend's reaction to it.  She was horrified that something like that should happen on American soil!  Her "freedom" was at risk! These things are fine to happen on other soil... 
I asked her if she'd ever thought of how mothers in Vietnam, Korea, and Afghanistan felt about war being fought on THEIR soil, at the hands of the Americans.  I was so indignant at her attitude that I was almost glad it HAD finally happened to the Americans.  Let them get a feel for what they've been handing out to everybody else.  Let them get a reality check, and know that NO LIFE DOES NOT ALWAYS HAVE A HAPPILY EVER AFTER ending.

Please get me straight, I don't condone those suicide flights, El Queda and all the other stuff.  But I also wish America would stop thinking they're God's answer to the world's problems.
oopss... sorry.. I'm off topic here...

Anyway, as others have said, things that get looked over in the SA news because there's too much of it happening, and it's "old news", gets blown out of proportion here in NZ, because it's "new news" and nothing else is happening.

ok I'll  :-X now!   :whistle:

oh... no wait....
I wanted to tell you, I've driven to the store, thinking our garage door was closed, when it was wide open.  There are no high walls around our property, or a gate at the street side of our driveway.  When I came back, it was open, and nobody had come in to steal our computers, or anything else.
This weekend, we left the garage door open most of the time, while Jan's car was outside in the driveway having it's battery recharged, and he was doing woodwork on the driveway too.  He didn't close the garage door, or pack his tools away, when we went upstairs for lunch. 
BUT that said, we try not to "tempt fate", as of course crime DOES exist.  So yes, we do lock our  house when we leave (and mostly don't forget the garage door!), and we do lock our cars when we get out at a store or park in the streets.  And we don't leave parcels on the seats in plain site, because those kids that are on the dole, would be tempted to break the window to steal the parcel in the hope of selling it to feed their drug addiction.
 :)
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: Shirls on July 27, 2010, 12:12:53 am
 :clap: great post(s) Colleen. I think you would have to have rose tinted glasses to believe that NZ (or any other country in the world for that matter) was crime free.

We park our cars in the garage but don't lock them, I don't always remember to shut the garage when I go out. I go for walks down by the river and don't have to keep looking over my shoulder, I can go shopping with out having to think who is watching me, who could try and steal my car - with my baby in it!

We have an empty house 2 doors down from us - has been empty all year so far... all its windows and doors are still intact! What are the odd of that happening in SA?
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: Centurionite on July 27, 2010, 12:22:17 am
About two years after being here, the garage door remote was pressed by accident (which we did not notice).

We went out that morning at 8am and returned at about 10pm that evening, the connecting door to the house from the garage was open.

I almost had a heart attack coming up the road, when my husband asked me if I had pressed the remote (which I did not even have on me).

Not one thing taken, and the garage was still full of amount 30 boxes, bikes, washing machine, tumble drier etc. - could not believe this (in SA we would have been cleaned out).

My daughter always opens the windows and doors, and we forget to check before going to bed (have left the key in the front door at least four times already) - just from being distracted.

Imagine having done this in SA - I checked the doors at least a dozen times before going to bed at night, and then awoke for every sound.

I would say NZ is still pretty safe in this regard.
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: ronaldd on July 27, 2010, 10:54:01 pm
Crime is everywhere.
I think the percentage changes from country to country , but if you  say 1% of people in a country is criminals.  In Sa that is 480 000 - 600 000 people.
Criminals will target people they perceive to have things they (the criminals) want.  So they target the perceived richer folks.
In NZ,  1% is would be 48 000-50 000 and who is the rich folks here?  but there is probably less than per capita than SA.

if a house has all the windows broken or stuff smashed, that is not criminals, that hooligans.  usually kids being naughty ,  because as far as i remember,  robbers dont throw out all the windows after a robbery... its kind of counter productive for them to make people take notice of their presense.


Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: thombatt on July 27, 2010, 11:22:36 pm
The fact that NZ has the dole is one of the reasons why crime is so low.
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: SaKiwiBoer on July 27, 2010, 11:28:08 pm
The fact that NZ has the dole is one of the reasons why crime is so low.

I think it's also the reason for a lot of other problems in NZ... But that is a totally different discussion altogether.
SAKB
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: Savayla on July 28, 2010, 01:16:27 am
The fact that NZ has the dole is one of the reasons why crime is so low.

I tend to disagree.  I would think that this makes people drink more and take to drugs.  They have the money to sit on their arses all day and do nothing.  This is bad for the soul.  I could be wrong. 
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: SaKiwiBoer on July 28, 2010, 01:31:16 am
I tend to disagree.  I would think that this makes people drink more and take to drugs.  They have the money to sit on their arses all day and do nothing.  This is bad for the soul.  I could be wrong. 

That's why I said ....
I think it's also the reason for a lot of other problems in NZ... But that is a totally different discussion altogether.
SAKB
Not meaning that I agree with thombatt...., I agree with Savayla.
I think the DOLL should be changed/taken away .... ::)
Cheers, SAKB
Now the rock throwing can begin.... 1, 2, 3....go,   :D
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: SaKiwiBoer on July 28, 2010, 01:49:54 am
dievissers -   :o 
If you agree why are you the first one to throw stuff at me ...   ???
Eish, even your "friends" will "take you out" these days....
 :2funny:
Enjoy, SAKB
Daar's geen genade meer vir 'n "ou" mens nie...  ::)
 :2funny:

@ Schalk - that's why I said "change/taken away"...  :)
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: SaKiwiBoer on July 28, 2010, 07:47:59 pm
Sjoe, dis al Donderdag oggend en nie 'n "piep" uit julle klomp uit nie...  ???
Is something the matter??
Het julle griep of iets??
Enjoy, SAKB
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: SaKiwiBoer on July 28, 2010, 08:52:49 pm
  ::)   Hmmm.... "of iets"....  ^-^

O   K   ... "of iets"....
 :whistle:  No comment....  ::)
E n j o y   ;) , SAKB
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: SaKiwiBoer on July 28, 2010, 10:48:05 pm
Wat het jou "laat" bus uit te waai met die saak dat julle so stil is op die forum??
  :nono:  Moenie laat dit weer gebeur nie....
 :2funny:  :2funny:  :2funny:
Eish, SAKB
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: magusta on July 29, 2010, 01:28:50 am
dog ek sal nooit saam met jou stem nie. die ipad is rubbish!
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: SaKiwiBoer on July 29, 2010, 01:39:16 am
  :2funny:  :2funny:  :2funny:
Naaste wat ek seker ooit aan 'n "iPad" sal kom is die stuk rou vleis wat ons so nou en dan teen my "shiner" druk as die "chick oppie blue couch" my by gekom het...  :2funny:  :2funny:
Enjoy, SAKB
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: Eileen on July 29, 2010, 01:52:00 am
  :2funny:  :2funny:  :2funny:
Naaste wat ek seker ooit aan 'n "iPad" sal kom is die stuk rou vleis wat ons so nou en dan teen my "shiner" druk as die "chick oppie blue couch" my by gekom het...  :2funny:  :2funny:
Enjoy, SAKB
:faint: Ek kan dit doen...   :heeha:

 :cloud9:

 :jk:
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: SaKiwiBoer on July 29, 2010, 08:23:22 pm
Eish...  :2funny:
You've got me...
 :flowers:
 ::)
Cheers, SAKB
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: Crusader on October 03, 2011, 12:25:32 am
this makes for good reading....

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10756209
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: Tui on October 03, 2011, 12:33:13 am
What a fantastic read. 34 murders in the last year.....wow, I do realize we are a MUCH smaller Country, with a MUCH smaller population....but what is SA murder rate I wonder? About 34 a day??

But nevertheless, a very positive article  O0


x
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: SA3001 on October 03, 2011, 01:58:42 am
What a fantastic read. 34 murders in the last year.....wow, I do realize we are a MUCH smaller Country, with a MUCH smaller population....but what is SA murder rate I wonder? About 34 a day??

But nevertheless, a very positive article  O0


x

SA was 16834 for the year ended March.  If you want to compare it to NZ's figure based on population size, that should read 425 and not 16834  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: Ostrich on October 03, 2011, 02:08:18 am
One of the things I like about NZ is that in general, people value life. When someone dies prematurely in town, it often makes the papers and people seem genuinely concerned or saddened by it (memorials, community services, etc). You don't always find that in many countries in the world.
Title: Re: Crime in NZ??
Post by: RihhanaNZ on June 22, 2013, 02:15:05 pm
According to a dispute resolution lawyer (http://www.patterson.co.nz/solutions/dispute-resolution-settlement-and-trial), "An eye for eye makes person blind". No place on the world is crime free. Cops were no longer needed if NZ would be a non-offense nation. But I can say, crime ratio in NZ is negligible compared to many nations.