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Offline PLM

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Re: Reasons for leaving SA
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2007, 03:16:09 pm »
Thanks Sandy.I have already checked out the forum and found plenty of interesting information.This is by far the best site on the net for information regarding emigration to NZ. :clap:

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Re: Reasons for leaving SA
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2007, 09:35:45 am »
Reasons for leaving South Africa…
Ok, yes, everybody agrees with the crime… that’s the No. 1 reason for leaving…
There is No future unless you are the right color of skin… with all this Black Empowerment *** going on, there is no future. The racism is getting worse, the hi-jackings the raping etc. I get so sick to receive all theses type of e-mails and hearing about all this *** going on, it infuriates me and I can’t handle it anymore. I don’t even read them anymore; I just delete it as soon as I see what it’s all about.  :tickedoff:
We live in Forth-Knox in our homes; we are too scared to stop at Robots or even our drive-ways. Your home is supposed to be the place where you feel save and secure but I don’t know, it’s not they way we are suppose to live.  :'(

Well, I’m from Richards Bay, the crime is Bad but not as bas as in Johannesburg, Hillbrow etc.
It’s a beautiful area, sunny blue skies, sandy beaches (the ones left that is save to go…) and it’s a very relaxing and peaceful atmosphere… well that’s all changing quite quickly.
More and more buildings popping op everywhere, more people moving into Richards Bay and it is becoming crowded… and yes, more dangerous…

There aren’t any job opportunities for the school leavers these days and here it’s not based on WHAT you know but WHO you know.
What’s the use of working so hard and giving your 200% and not even being thanked or like PLM said not even been given any "recognition."
My boyfriend and I are very hard, committed workers and we are sure that we will be much happier in New Zealand. We can further our education and be more successful in a country that wants us there and a country that gives you more opportunities to live life the way you would like to.

I just can’t wait for the wheel to start turning and getting everything in motion of leaving.

Any way, now that I got rid of a bit of anger let me get back to work.

Have a good day everybody.


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Re: Reasons for leaving SA
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2007, 09:35:45 am »

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Re: Reasons for leaving SA
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2007, 01:39:29 pm »
Reasons for leaving this beautiful country of ours:-  ::)

Well, I think I need to firstly count myself lucky (and my immediate family members) that neither of us have been directly affected by the horrific crime in the country. 

Neither of us had ever thought of leaving South Africa, until two years ago when my sister and her husband said that they were going to NZ.  As time went on, I saw NZ as an answer to prayers.  My husband has been involved in a sport here in Cape Town for 30 years.  He had climbed the ranks and was the 'chief'.  But being the 'chief' meant the kids and I were 'widows'.  Yes over the years he did less, but not enough to satisfy my picture of what a family were supposed to be.   ;)

On the work front, I eventually found, what I saw as my 'perfect job'.  I enjoyed going to work and I could see endless possibilities and growth where I worked, but hubby's situation was different.  He has worked for the same company for 29 yrs, (semi-government) - so if the skin colour aint the right shade - sorry for you pal!!  Younger guys were getting the promotions and increases.  Then a new company take over their section and promise 'profit-share' - YEAH right.  My husband does call-outs, break-downs at all hours and is on standby, works 12 shifts and puts a lot of extra effort in - and what does he get at the end of the day??? A whopping R600 !!!  While some other nitwit who does nothing ALL DAY - gets R2000.  Explain that.   :tickedoff:

So, crime is not my MAIN reason, although it does feature.  When I read and hear the stories of all the children that are being raped, beaten and hurt, it just makes me so mad.  I sometimes sit and imagine what those parents must go through.  I have the prettiest little 5 yr old girl (I know I'm being biased), but every now and then she wants to take the dog for a walk with her bigger brother and we cant let her.  We cant let her go down to the park, or play in the front garden.  Why???  It is my garden, my house and I dont feel safe in it. 

And then I reckon the other reason that I say to everyone is Why Not??  Hubby and I have decided that this is going to be an adventure!!  Yes, we are selling and giving up everything we have known, but if we dont try this, we will sit on the 'stoep' at 80 and wonder What If???
And live is too short for what ifs.   

There are of course the other reasons:- the future of the country, the future for our children, the education, the government, the BEE and the AA, and all that, but we have decided between us that we are not going to 'run' away from SA, because then we might never be happy that side, we are going on an adventure.  As I read somewhere before - our blood will always be green.   :2funny:

Sorry for the long post, but it is great to get this out there.

Best of luck to all.  :gl:

Stuckie
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Re: Reasons for leaving SA
« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2007, 05:38:44 pm »
Thanks for the honest reply Stuckie. We are also, among the other reasons, seeing this as a adventure that we have the opportunity to take and don't want to look back and say : If only.

My parents are in that position now. My Dad was offered a good position in Oz shortly before I was born and they were too scared to take the plunge. Now they want to leave, but can't.

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Re: Reasons for leaving SA
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2007, 09:21:57 pm »
There are a lot of reasons for leaving SA.
Crime escalating.........
Corruption in government............
Incompetence in government departments....have you been to home affairs lately?
Petrol,food,interest rate inflation..........etc etc
If I don't do it now I will be too old..............
Life is an adventure..................
There is a reason why life expectancy is so low in SA............

FW pleaded recently that government should play down affirmative action......government responded that it is going to be intensified instead!
Thabo Mbekis brother says SA was better off under colonial rule and will go the same way as Zim......thats confidence in your bro!
In the next 10 years Africa is going to lose 50 % of arable land due to global warming......
Aziz Pahad says there is no way of stopping illegal immigrants from entering SA.....
Prostitution and public drinking to be legalized for entire world cup in 2010.
Criminals to be sentenced until after world cup in 2010....then released?

Just some thoughts off the top of my head....there are a million more!?  :tickedoff:




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Re: Reasons for leaving SA
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2007, 09:30:46 pm »
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Criminals to be sentenced until after world cup in 2010....then released?

Do you have a link for me Anton?

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Re: Reasons for leaving SA
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2007, 09:37:03 pm »
Nolan it was published in one of our local newspapers......unfortunately I don't have a link....will do a search........
Magistrates where requested to please convict criminals to at least after the world cup so that they will not have to deal with them during the world cup.....True story....



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Re: Reasons for leaving SA
« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2007, 10:07:32 pm »
« Last Edit: April 08, 2007, 10:09:42 pm by antonjl »



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« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2007, 11:17:23 pm »
Thanks for finding a link for me Anton. That is just ridiculous - it just looks more and more to me that 2010 is D-day for SA. Before that the world is watching us like a hawk. After that the eyes of the world will turn elsewhere and things are going to go seriously backwards from there onwards. It breaks my heart to think how different things could have been if they were done properly.

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Re: Reasons for leaving SA
« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2007, 06:09:03 pm »
I have split the Global Warming discussion, as it merits it's own thread. You can find it HERE.

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Re: Reasons for leaving SA
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2007, 06:03:45 am »
1.The ANC
2.President Zuma (soon to be)
3. Mbeki
4. Youth League of ANC
5. Young disaffected black males killing and raping at alarming rates
6. Mass immigration from Zim and Mozambique into SA



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Re: Reasons for leaving SA
« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2007, 06:26:02 am »
1.The ANC
2.President Zuma (soon to be)
3. Mbeki
4. Youth League of ANC
5. Young disaffected black males killing and raping at alarming rates
6. Mass immigration from Zim and Mozambique into SA




The reasons people leave SA now is just getting so sad :'(


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Re: Reasons for leaving SA
« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2007, 05:52:26 pm »
and what about the thousands of qualified teachers leaving SA.
Soon there will be no teachers left to teach our kids! >:(



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Re: Reasons for leaving SA
« Reply #43 on: April 18, 2007, 09:45:13 pm »
I know there are a lot of nurses, doctors and dentists that have left and are in UK or here in NZ, which is great for us expats, but not for people still in SA :-\


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Re: Reasons for leaving SA
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2007, 01:44:42 pm »
Got this e-mail this morning, now, anyone who has a wife and two beatifull daughters,

tell me why you would stay here ?

Hi everyone,
 
I used to love South Africa, I used to say I'd never leave... my rose-tinted glasses were shattered last month!
 
- Monday morning 23/07/2007 my mom was driving to work when she hit a pedestrian.
- the pedestrian seemed fine, however, the other black people started stoning my mom's car.
- she has a witness, a man who hooted at her to go - then followed her to the closest garage and told my mom to go to the police
- my mom was so upset, she then got my brother to take her to the police station to make a statement
- the superintendent at the station took the statement and told my mom not to worry, seeing as the pedestrian was fine and hadn't come forward with a charge, nothing would come of it
- my mom went to work - only to have a police van full of officers pitch at her office to arrest her!
- As she hysterically tried to call me to say they were taking her to Roodepoort Police Station, they took her phone from her and simply threw her into the van. On route to the station they asked my mom for a bribe, my mom never had cash on her - then they all started laughing at her and told her what a useless white she is.
- I raced to the police station and immediately got hold of a lawyer.... the lawyer was furious!
- There was no charge! no pedestrian! and yet my mother was thrown in a cell - with a convict!
- the convict told my mom she organised for other convicts to be let into the cell to rape and beat my mom that night
- when fingerprints were taken my mom asked for some toilet paper and was told to wipe her hands on her effing hand bag!
When I was at the police station I was treated with total disregard by the black police officers - who looked at me like something someone scraped off the bottom of their shoe!
 
Long story short, this entire nightmare cost four thousand rand in lawyer fees and bail to get my mom out. The lawyer knew to act quickly to ensure that my mom did not stay in overnight. The case was thrown out of court on Tuesday morning, as there was no case! My mom was put through hell and back by our joke of a police force - who should surely to God use their manpower where it's so desperately needed in our country.
 
My lawyer confirmed that white people are being victimised. The theory is that we have the money to waste on bribes and bail!
Please ensure that you have the number of a lawyer... the police aim to keep you in jail for at least one night - they only need one night to get you raped and beaten by other convicts - so that they got their revenge against whites.
 
My mom is terrorised and currently undergoing counseling...And simply wants to forget the whole thing. But I refuse to let more people be victimised by an institution that's supposed to protect us!
 
ALWAYS HAVE A LAWYERS NUMBER - and warn everyone you know to keep the number of a lawyer handy, as you have to act speedily to avoid staying even one night! (we've all heard scary stories about traffic officers arresting people without the necessary legal documents)
 
Racism is an ugly thing South Africans are trying hard to get rid of, yet racism against white people is so clearly evident.
God help us... let's pray we don't end up like Zim, as our government and law enforcement seem set on sending us in the same direction!
 
Jacqui
Johannesburg, SA
 
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