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Offline frodo/maya

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Re: a good (long) read / balanced view
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2010, 02:36:48 am »
I have said it before and will say it again.... does not matter where people like this move to, or who they mingle with, they are deeply unhappy within themselves and no country or person can change this!  Good luck to them!  Ek is eerder "low class" en gelukkig as "unhappy" en soek fout met alles in die lewe.  Good luck and good riddens!

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« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2010, 05:46:42 am »
Would still love to know where people like this are living and whom they are associating with.   Maybe they live with their heads in the crime section of the New Zealand Herald.  No one that I know around me lives like that. 

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Re: a good (long) read / balanced view
« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2010, 07:07:34 am »
We are living in West Auckland and we haven't seen any of this  :confused:

Must be Outrageous Fortune that gives this wild west reputation to West Auckland  :whistle:  Pity, there are some lovely areas in the West.

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« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2010, 07:38:01 am »
 :2funny:  Sorry, shot off  my mouth about West Auckland.  I was thinking from 7 years ago, when it did have a baddish rep.  Sorry   :blush:

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« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2010, 07:48:54 am »
No worries.  ;)






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Re: a good (long) read / balanced view
« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2010, 10:41:01 am »
We are living in West Auckland and we haven't seen any of this  :confused:

Pity, there are some lovely areas in the West.

I agree - we stayed in the West for 9 months before we moved to Palmi and I loved the house, the view we had and our quiet, but friendly neighbours.  It took me a while to adapt to the Palmi country lifestyle....I am a city girl living in the country now :2funny:.  We bought a very small, new 2 bedroom house here and it's got all the luxuries we had in SA (apart from the space and the big garden) and I just love it - takes us only a few hours to clean the house and tend to the garden.  We don't nearly earn half the money we used to in SA, BUT we did not move here for the money....we moved here for a better quality of life and that is exactly what we got.  Maybe we were just lucky from the day we stepped onto NZ soil, but apart from DH that struggled to get a job for 9 months, a terrible house we rented in an "upmarket" area here (luckily we only rented it for 6 weeks) and me struggling to adapt to the country life after he got the job, we did not have any bad experiences.  He loves his job and after a few months I am really enjoying the country lifestyle.  Yes, clothes and some other items are expensive, but I learned to adapt and only buy things I really, really need....one can do without a lot of stuff and luxuries once you get used to it. 

In this woman's view, only the low class citizens of SA will be happy in NZ. She indicated that the houses were wet, the people get drunk every night, the children fight at school and there is no development in terms of infrastructure and that everything is run down.

Was she talking about herself  :2funny: ? When we were looking at other countries, I wanted to go to Oz, but DH decided NZ is the only place for him....so, we ended up in NZ and I am soooo glad I listened to him.  Oz is a bit to warm for my liking and there is too much snakes and big spiders.  I've heard about the "drunk people" in NZ but there's now difference between them and the ones in SA.  I still think the service in NZ is great and at least here I can see what my tax money is used for.  There is not a day that goes by without me being grateful for the opportunity to be in NZ and experience Kiwi lifestyle (the good and the bad).  I know there are people that are not happy here ....we are all different and have different expectations and therefore you are entitled to your opinion and should do what's best for you.

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« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2010, 08:34:12 pm »
Just read in the NZ Herald, that France has received a threat from Usama Bin Laden regarding killing French Citizens, one they are taking very seriously.  Already 5 have been taken hostage somewhere.  It is due to them being involved inthe Afghanistan War and also that they are now disallowing the wearing of Burka's. 

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« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2010, 09:14:00 pm »
This ain't too bad for a 3rd World Country >:D >:D

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/4311445/New-Zealand-one-of-top-three-places-to-live-report

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« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2010, 09:24:21 pm »
  ::)  I don't know if I agree with the report....  :-\
NZ is a good place to stay, I agree. But is it a top 3 country...  ::) ,  I just don't know.
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Re: a good (long) read / balanced view
« Reply #39 on: November 04, 2010, 11:07:10 pm »
I can't really comment, because I have not lived in enough first world countries to have a good enough opinion.  When I spent 2 weeks in Norway, the grafitti shocked me, and all the drug addicts on the dole. 

As for New Zealand, well, same again.  I guess I have not lived here long enough, and although you can do so much research and reading, it is the living on a daily basis that counts more.   I also think it is where in the country you live.  Those that live in the country often have a completely different view from those who live in the city.  Those that live in the North may differ from those that live in the Deep South.  Prices vary, councils differ. 

I guess I should not have written this, as I haven't said anything except that I don't know.   :2funny:

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« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2010, 11:11:10 pm »
very good point Savayla, at the end it comes back to what you make of a situation. I do think the report is a very good benchmark, New Zealand is an awsome country to me and my family. The longer I am here, the better it gets.

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« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2010, 11:24:18 pm »
, at the end it comes back to what you make of a situation. I. The longer I am here, the better it gets.

Too true.  If you have not integrated, if the weather really pees you off etc , , then no matter what the country is like, where it is on the STATS board, you will not agree.  You will see everything in a different light to others. 

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Re: a good (long) read / balanced view
« Reply #42 on: November 05, 2010, 06:36:39 am »


If I had to constantly compare NZ with some UK/Europe countries, I would go absolutely nuts and totally depressed! 

I could have moved to Norway without immigrating.  My sister lived there for 12 years, came back to SA for 4, went back for 1 year. She is now in Asia.  The country is clean, it is a socialist country so the government really looks after its people, but they have so many problems now with the refugees that they welcomed into the country.  The muslims want to practice their own law, when the prime minister refused, they actually threw a bomb into her house, setting it alight, one night when she and her family were all asleep.  She has kids.  It is incredibly expensive.  There are so many people on the dole.  When I was there, there were other racial issues which freaked me out a bit.     I would never go and live there.  They are completely different from us.  And Norway is No. 1. 

Have a good friend from the UK.  She is looking for a better country to live in.  With her husband, child and dog, they went to Portugal, Spain and France for 1 year.  Living with with people, working, etc.   They discovered that life is not so rosy as your dreams, in these foreign places.  They thought it would be France for them, but have now chosen Portugal. 

As I often say, we are all so different.   And these places are not all cool.  IT is what you want out of life that is the deciding factor. 

Like Rockhopper, I am quite happy in my little piece of paradise here. 

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Re: a good (long) read / balanced view
« Reply #43 on: November 05, 2010, 07:21:09 am »
Portugal is a beautiful, relaxed and amazing place.
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Compared to the rest of Europe, alot more backward. Big beurocracy (sp?) in trying to get anything done (personal experience!). When I was there last - 12 years ago - I went out with cousins and was astounded at how big the drug culture is.  Not the "soft" drugs but hardcore stuff like heroine.  And this is a peaceful, little country on the edge of Europe.

So absolutely! No matter how awesome the country, it will always have its warts.  Its up to every individual how they handle the warts though. :)
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Re: a good (long) read / balanced view
« Reply #44 on: November 05, 2010, 07:29:19 am »
IT is what you want out of life that is the deciding factor. 


That is so true. Its very difficult to judge the quality of life in a country based on statistics. It would be quite possible to design a very comfortable jail where the inmates are completely miserable but are never the less well fed and live to 80 yrs. We're very open space, outdoorsy type folks, so living in London or New York, surrounded by concrete, would the ultimate punishment whereas many others love it.
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